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We are the music-makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams,
Wandering by lone sea-breakers
And sitting by desolate streams;
World losers and world forsakers,
On whom the pale moon gleams:
Yet we are the movers and shakers
Of the world for ever, it seems.With wonderful deathless ditties
We build up the world’s great cities.
And out of a fabulous story
We fashion an empire’s glory:
One man with a dream, at pleasure,
Shall go forth and conquer a crown;
And three with a new song’s measure
Can trample an empire down.We, in the ages lying
In the buried past of the earth,
Built Nineveh with our sighing,
And Babel itself with our mirth;
And o’erthrew them with prophesying
To the old of the new world’s worth;
For each age is a dream that is dying,
Or one that is coming to birth.-Arthur O’Shaughnessy
Once in awhile, a title comes along which defines its respective genre for years to come.
Today, September 7, 2017, we’re celebrating the 20th anniversary of the North American release of Final Fantasy VII. Twenty years ago, this game became an instant legend and it’s remained a source of fascination and adoration for those two decades, with only a few of those anti-culture contrarians claiming it’s crappy and overrated. For the rest of us with our heads on straight and our eyes full of Mako, we know that Final Fantasy VII may not be perfect (get back, you savages!) but it sure is an incredible experience representing a milestone in gaming history.
The immediate problem that confronts us is this: it’s really intimidating to review, analyze, and in some areas even criticize a legend. When a game is as beloved as Final Fantasy VII, when it’s surrounded by a sea of rumors, hoaxes, tributes, fanfics, fan art, fandoms and fandumbs, spin-offs galore, the tease of a remake, and favorite “ships”, it becomes this insurmountable mountain of a task to write on the game. How do you say something about Final Fantasy VII that hasn’t already been said? What could you write about it that could possibly appeal to (or satisfy, for that matter) the seething masses of religious-level fans that adore this game? How could you possibly criticize the nuances of its mechanics or its storytelling and survive unscathed after the inevitable internet backlash? Yet I believe that great artists and art deserve good criticism.
This is a moment of transparency for us. For me at least. It’s really hard to write about famous games! It’s very intimidating. That’s why I personally fluctuate from reviewing newer games to older games, titles that everyone has heard of to hidden gems, classics and legends to obscure unknowns. Maybe, if you’re a reviewer, you suffer the same malady, and I wonder what you do to get around it?
In any case, we couldn’t exactly pass up the opportunity to review one of the most beloved games in history (next to what, chess and football?). We couldn’t miss the opportunity on its 20th anniversary, either. A massive bucket of gratitude must go to the Black Humor Mage (a founding member) for creating the germ of the content below and proposing to write a review for Final Fantasy VII on September 7th, 2017 at all.
Since we had to do this game justice, since we felt we couldn’t just do a regular review, here’s what’s about to happen. Let me present to you our first ever Dualcast Review!
Think the dual techs in Chrono Trigger. In a Dualcast, two mages combine their respective magicks to produce a piece that receives input from both writers in a kind of back and forth conversational format, emphasizing two different perspectives at once. I’ve wanted to do something like this for some time now and this anniversary of FFVII proved to be the perfect chance to create a Dualcast.
You see, in the arcane communique of our magely team, we claim in advance the games which we’d like to review. At this point in time, we’re not allowing anyone the chance to review a game we’ve already reviewed (excepting versions, editions, and remakes). Maybe someday, after we’ve built up a bigger selection of reviews we can do revisits.
I themed this blog around Final Fantasy, one of my favorite franchises in gaming, and I’ve been chipping away at reviewing bits and pieces from that sprawling series since we began. So when the Black Humor Mage announced recently that he’d just completed Final Fantasy VII for the first time and he wanted to review it, I had a sudden paradox of emotions. On the one hand, hey that’s great that he’s reviewing the intimidating title and I won’t have too, but on the other hand, I wanted a chance to take a shot at the legend myself. We went back and forth on the issue until the proposition of a Dualcast Review appealed to both of us.
So, voila! The following review has been a monumental task, completed by two writers: myself who grew up with this game and has played through it multiple times, representing nostalgia, and the other who has played it for the first time from the vantage point of today, representing modernity. We’ll be able to provide two unique perspectives on this classic from two different angles, and I hope you enjoy our conversational review. Just follow the talking heads.
Without further ado… let’s celebrate Final Fantasy VII! SPOILERS… but really if you haven’t played this by now you’re doing yourself a disservice.
For many people, Final Fantasy VII represented their first time playing a Final Fantasy, with all of the engaging storytelling which that entails. Before 1987, the Final Fantasy franchise enjoyed a presence in gaming and in its first ten years it sold fairly well. Its greatest successes were safely in the Japanese market, however, and other territories like the US and Europe weren’t able to enjoy every title released in the series as they were launched. Cue the confusing hullaballoo of “misnamed” games: FFII vs FFIV, FFIII vs FFVI, Final Fantasy Adventure and Final Fantasy Legend. North America never even received the actual Final Fantasy II and III, not until they were remastered and repackaged for future systems years later!
Despite the disarray, Final Fantasy quickly built up a reputation for engaging role-play built on customizing job classes as well as interesting and occasionally even moving storytelling. The series became a marked influence for RPGs. Final Fantasy IV ushered in a new standard for emotional characters and drama, and Final Fantasy VI (my favorite) featured a world and cast that was bigger than ever. Then came Final Fantasy VII, the first main “sequel” game with a consistent numerical name across the globe. For many a gamer it was the first RPG they’d ever played. The game sold almost 2.5 million copies in just three days, the fastest selling Final Fantasy game worldwide in its time! Its platform, the PlayStation, the newcomer in the hardware scene, was eventually sold on the back of FFVII’s success.
FFVII was an RPG that appealed to so many people who thought of the genre as belonging to the dungeon-crawling D&D high fantasy scene with generic heroes in loincloths brandishing giant swords and dragons, not to complex sci-fi narratives with powerful themes and unique, three-dimensional characters. I think the game took a lot of people by surprise, especially those who hadn’t followed the series through the SNES. FFVII helped to popularize RPGs and JRPGs across the world in a way no previous game had. It single-handedly made its own genre more accessible to millions.
Final Fantasy VII was released first in Japan in January of 1997.
The Final Fantasy series had been around for some time, and this was its first venture into a three-dimensional space. Producer Hironobu Sakaguchi and Square planned and developed Final Fantasy VII in a span of two years beginning in 1994. Originally, Final Fantasy VII was going to be developed for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System right after Final Fantasy VI was released. However, the workforce was reallocated to complete Chrono Trigger.
Chrono Trigger turned into a massive development task fueled by Square’s “Dream Team”. The demanding project of passion ended up putting its own composer, Yasunori Mitsuda, into the hospital and the game used a lot of concepts originally intended for FFVII. Both Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger were highly successful projects put out by Square, but though they represented a slew of risks and experimentation taken on the part of the developers, Square knew it was time for something more. Final Fantasy VII represents a shift in the Final Fantasy franchise. It was a game of firsts and a step from two dimensions into three.
Once 1995 came around, Chrono Trigger was released and so Sakaguchi
and his team saw opportunity in using computer-generated 3D graphics, and tested the waters with a tech-demo of Final Fantasy VI characters in a 3D battle mode. This experiment’s success pushed them forward to develop Final Fantasy VII in 3D. They weren’t even concerned with whether or not it should be developed for the PlayStation or Nintendo 64 yet because they were too concerned with learning how to create a 3D video game.
When the time came to actually put “plans to paper”, they found that sticking with Nintendo would be impossible. Nintendo was the company whose hardware brought Final Fantasy into the world but it was time for the series to leave that protective cradle and venture out into the unknown. Square announced on January 12, 1996 it would be developing Final Fantasy VII for Sony’s PlayStation console. No longer would Final Fantasy appear exclusively on the NES, the SNES, and the Game Boy (excepting the MSX).
“As a result of using a lot of motion data + CG effects and in still images, it turned out to be a mega capacity game, and therefore we had to choose CD-ROM as our media. In other words, we became too aggressive, and got ourselves into trouble.”
-Hironobu Sakaguchi
This came as a shock to many people who had played the Final Fantasy games leading up to VII and expected that the sequel would appear on Nintendo’s new N64, but it happened out of necessity when it was discovered that the massive 3D Final Fantasy game being developed, with its complex environments and loads of new complex character models, full motion videos, and gigantic story clocked in at 1.32 gigs. This game saw the largest development team ever assembled for a video game up to that point in history (120 people including visual effects artists who worked on Jurassic Park and Terminator 2) and the game they created was equally huge, but it would occupy only a few discs on the PlayStation. In comparison, should FFVII have appeared on N64 cartridges, which could only hold 64 MBs of data each, the game would’ve spanned about 22 carts (without compression) and could’ve cost up to $1,760 dollars in retail! Nintendo stubbornly sticking with cartridges as the industry moved on to discs cost them one of the crown jewels of gaming history.
It was the beginning of the end for Nintendo’s popularity and they’ve slowly shifted away from center interest since then, but Final Fantasy VII marked the rise of influence and reputation of the Sony PlayStation as a platform that could feature robust RPGs like the SNES could and also games which would appeal to a maturing audience of gamers. Since then, Final Fantasy has almost entirely appeared in the PlayStation lineup, with only a few exceptions on Nintendo and Xbox devices, and PC.
The three-dimensional style of Final Fantasy VII was not the only feature
that helped make PlayStation successful. The narrative plays a huge part in why this game has such a huge following. When Sakaguchi was developing this project, he originally wanted it to take place in New York City with the main character being a detective who was investigating an eco-terrorist organization. One of the characters that was part of that organization was Cloud Strife, who soon became the protagonist of Final Fantasy VII.
The story began to take form, and eventually it became the premise as follows: The AVALANCHE organization, led by Barret Wallace, hires an ex-SOLDIER mercenary named Cloud Strife to help them bomb reactors in order to combat the Shinra Corporation. This huge corporation is using up Mako energy and draining the life of the Planet to power their technology, weapons, and the industrial city of Midgar. Midgar is a huge city where the lower half is a slum, and the upper half is only for the wealthy elite.
One of the bombings goes wrong and Cloud meets a woman in the slums of Midgar with a mysterious past by the name of Aeris. A plot unravels as the Shinra Corporation looks for a “Promised Land” to drain more resources from the Planet, attempting to hunt down Aeris, and another antagonist, Sephiroth, has his own plan for the “Promised Land” too. It’s up to Cloud, Barrett, Tifa (Cloud’s childhood friend), Aeris and other comrades they meet along way to stop both entities from reaching the “Promised Land” and destroying the Planet.
At the beginning of the game, Final Fantasy VII feels less like a fantasy, and more like a Philip K. Dick novel. However, this game retains the elements of fantasy like the ability to use magic powers such as lightning, fire, and ice. This gets into the mechanics of the game; the way the player is able to use these magic powers is by equipping Materia, which are weapon/attire accessories. There is also the use of summons: elemental beings that the player can summon to strike a huge blow to the enemies. So, Final Fantasy VII blends fantasy and sci-fi elements to create a unique universe for its complex story.
The level of science-fantasy elements in Final Fantasy VII is I think one of the things which immediately set it apart as something new upon release. Midgar, that dirty metropolis with its slums and reactors and Shinra over it all, really dominates the impression you get from the game the first time you play it. When I first played FFVII back in ‘97, I thought Midgar was the whole game and that thought alone was entrancing!
I mean, you don’t start playing in front of a castle or in a forested glade. You start as eco-terrorists in a post-industrial dystopia not unlike the depths of Lang’s Metropolis or Scott’s Blade Runner. Midgar is every sweltering, grimey urban disaster from 80’s crime and sci-fi movies. Instead of dragons to fight and princesses to rescue, there are technological nightmares, questions of scientific ethics, genetic experiments, a private corporation wielding incredible social and political power, civil unrest, and extreme poverty. These take us closer to the real world and that’s just in the game’s first few hours. People really gravitated towards that in its time.
It’s these science fiction elements that caught my attention.
I’ve never played a Final Fantasy game, but I always wanted to get into them. Final Fantasy VII was the first for a lot of people, like the Well-Red Mage mentioned earlier, and it was the first for me. I lean more heavily toward science fiction than fantasy, so that’s why I decided on this one.
The world of Final Fantasy VII is one that seems as though they took the same medieval world of the past games and set them a few centuries later. Although Midgar is a bustling cyber-punk city, much of the overworld the player traverses is green grass and mountainous regions surrounded by ocean. The player visits different cities and territories where they meet a cast of characters that the player can have in their party, in the usual JRPG fashion. The characters are distinct, having their own weapons and abilities. The characters also have their own back stories, troubles, and reasons for saving the world.
The characters, designed by Tetsuya Nomura, really stay with you after playing the game, significantly if you played it before they became as iconic as they are now. As my colleague mentioned, they each have their moments to shine and bring out the nuances of their personalities, their weaknesses. We get to see plenty of scenes of their past and come to really understand their motivations through their back stories.
“There wasn’t really much controversy or criticism about having [Cloud] as the hero from within Square, but he is definitely a mysterious character. That’s one of the game’s main themes, the fact that the protagonist has all these secrets to unravel. He isn’t a straightforward hero like Superman; rather, he has lots of mysteries, self-doubts, and a real dark side.”
-Director Yoshinori Kitase
Cloud Strife was a new kind of hero for the Final Fantasy franchise, a reluctant and occasionally indifferent one with an attitude. Compared to Cecil, Bartz, and Terra, Cloud is more confused about his role in the world and even his own identity. He seems to suffer more from his darkness and delusion rather than resist it for most of the game. He’s very much a modern character in that sense of being much more broken. Sometimes he comes off as a real jerk, arrogant, cocky, cold, very much a sphincter of a human being, though we come to realize he has a tortured and distorted past. Doesn’t exactly excuse his constant “not interested” motto, though. Cloud has a distinct personality, so he’s not a “window” character like a stand-in for the player in the world, so an emphasis was placed on developing empathy in the player for him over time.
Cloud is the classic Fighter class and he was one of three characters Nomura first created for this game, alongside Aeris and Barret. From the beginning, Cloud was to be the hero and main character, contrary to the ensemble cast approach in the previous Final Fantasy VI. The details came later: Cloud is first introduced as an ex-member of SOLDIER, Shinra’s private military force, though he’s turned to mercenary work for money, not for the ideals of AVALANCHE.
Cloud seems to be someone who was actively denying who he really was, for a variety of reasons, but we eventually discover that the unsociable bravado is a facade. The truth is Cloud was once an angry child without any real friends except for Tifa, who grew up as his literal girl-next-door. Cloud eventually left his hometown to join SOLDIER, idolizing the legendary warrior, Sephiroth. What Cloud “forgot” about his past is that he never became a member of SOLDIER… and his relation to Sephiroth and Mako energy is sinister. Trauma that Cloud experiences when he returns to his hometown alongside Sephiroth leads to him becoming a failed science experiment, delirious and vegetative, until he creates a new false persona for himself based off of Tifa’s memories and Zack’s identity, the man who helped save his life before the events of the game.
Cloud’s background is very complicated and the way in which it’s revealed through the game makes it both confusing and intriguing, but as the game progresses and Cloud begins to realize who he really is he sheds the cold exterior for a man who eventually proclaims that he cares for others. Cloud’s name probably refers to his moodiness throughout the game as clouds darken the sky, a trope many future Final Fantasy protagonists picked up on. Interestingly though, the etymology for the word “cloud” stems from the Old English word clud which meant “mass of earth or rock”, like a hill, from which we get our English word “clot”.
Tifa Lockhart, Cloud’s childhood friend and everybody’s waifu, is a member of AVALANCHE and the proprietor of the 7th Heaven bar in the Midgar slums. She’s equally frustrated by and protective of Cloud. It seems that she suspects something has changed about Cloud’s personality at the start of the game, so she convinces Cloud to join AVALANCHE in order to keep an eye on him. She’s a faithful friend for the entire game and even helps Cloud to recover his broken mind and identity.
Though there are moments in the game and in the community surrounding it when a kind of love-triangle is pointed out between Cloud and Tifa and Aeris, I think it’s pretty obvious who Cloud’s sweetheart is, this old flame with a penchant for Monk class martial arts and bare fisted fighting. How could she not be his choice? I mean, there are plenty of scenes in the game that suggest they have feelings for each other, but on top of that she’s powerful, independent, idealistic, and attractive (even with those terrible polygon models they used on the field maps!). More importantly her good-nature, warm-heartedness and hopeful optimism, and trouble expressing herself, make her one of the more endearing characters in the game. She doesn’t give up on Cloud or the Planet!
The concept for Tifa came into development when it was decided that a character would be killed. When Aeris became that character, Tifa was invented as a rival for Aeris for Cloud’s heart, really something different for Final Fantasy games that were much more straightforward before this point. Though she was an invention of necessity for the sake of the story and other characters, FFVII just wouldn’t be the same game without Tifa. Her influences in Cloud’s life helped him through his loneliness and confusion. Her influence on games also can’t be denied as she became a prototype for later heroines just as determined and just as powerful. Tifa’s name is suggested to have come from a variety of origins. It may be short for Tiffany, which stems from the Greek theophania, meaning “revealing of God”.
Barret Wallace is the leader of the AVALANCHE eco-terrorist group over Cloud, Tifa, Jessie, Biggs, and Wedge. An abrasive powerhouse with the mouth of a sailor, Barret has a dark past, evident from the huge gun attached to his arm where his hand used to be. He believes in saving the Planet and stopping Shinra, and he does his best to raise his adopted daughter Marlene, but he begins the game by really butting heads with Cloud. Cloud’s a butthole so you can’t blame him, but Barret distrusts him and that distrust often leads to Barret lashing out. Eventually, however, Barret begins to demonstrate that he has a good heart.
Barret is retroactively classified as the Gunner class and he is the first black playable character in the Final Fantasy franchise. He’s also a character of paradoxes. He wants to make the world a better place but he eventually admits he’s not the best equipped leader for the job. He has that soft side toward Marlene and his honorable goal of saving the Planet but at the same time he can be remarkably angry and violent, short-tempered and full of rage. This is later explained when we discover that Shinra betrayed him and that betrayal cost him his village, his family, and his own arm, as well as his friend Dyne.
Barret is the perfect character to represent the civil push back against Shinra, evident from his early inception in development. His backstory barely changed since the character was first invented. Vengeance and anger against Shinra, as well as leading revolution for the sake of the Planet, were tenements of the character from the beginning. Also, Barret in a lot of ways represents growing resentment against industrialization and the way in which technology can overcome humanity. Out of all the playable characters, Barret is part mechanical, and his life is defined by mercilessness balanced out by his buried but tender humanity. “Barrett” (with two T’s) has a Gaelic origin meaning “warlike people”.
Aeris Gainsborough is first encountered by Cloud in Midgar and she appears to be just a plain, pretty flower girl. However, she is yet another mysterious person and there’s much more to Aeris than meets the eye. The humble girl represents the last survivor of an ancient race called the Cetra. The Cetra were a spiritual people attuned to the Planet and these ancients are of interest to Shinra, which comes to believe that Aeris is the key to finding the fabled Promised Land, flowing with Mako and honey.
Aeris is a character with very little darkness to her. She’s cheerful and upbeat, occasionally flirtatious with Cloud, though she has expressed feeling lonely growing up due to being the last of her kind. Compared with Tifa, Aeris doesn’t seem to have anything to hide or any difficulty in expressing what’s on her mind and heart. She dreams of one day flying on an airship.
Most famously, though it’s not unprecedented in this franchise, Aeris departs from the party at a certain point in the game in order to stop Sephiroth alone and this leads to her tragic death at the hands of the villain. The permanency of her death and its unexpectedness was a massive element in this game’s storytelling and general impact. I remember feeling at the very least a lump in my throat at the emotional, gentle, regretful but hopeful moment.
It’s now the equivalent of a “No, I am your father!” Darth Vader moment in pop culture. Even people who haven’t played this game know that Aeris dies. However, her personhood lives on in the Lifestream and she continues to help Cloud and their friends. Her death plays a part in VII’s themes of life.
“We knew even in the early concept stage that one character would have to die. But we only had three to choose from. I mean, Cloud’s the main character, so you can’t really kill him. And Barret… well, that’s maybe too obvious. But we had to pick between Aerith and Barret. We debated this for a long time, but in the end decided to sacrifice Aerith… In the previous FF games, it became almost a signature theme for one character to sacrifice him or herself, and often it was a similar character type from game to game, kind of a brave, last-man-standing, Barret-type character. So everyone expected that. And I think that death should be something sudden and unexpected, and Aerith’s death seemed more natural and realistic. Now, when I reflect on Final Fantasy VII, the fact that fans were so offended by her sudden death probably means that we were successful with her character. If fans had simply accepted her death, that would have meant she wasn’t an effective character.”
-Tetsuya Nomura
An obvious White Mage healer class character, though early plans for the game had her pegged as a Geomancer, Aeris’ name may derive from the Greek aerios, meaning “high in the air”, perhaps hinting at her death and spiritual consciousness, though the developers have noted the similarity between aerith and “Earth”, which evokes her connection to nature. In Hebrew, there’s a girls’ name Erit which means “flower”.
In case you’re wondering, the different names Aerith and Aeris stemmed from translation issues. The original English translation was Aeris but her name has been retconned since Kingdom Hearts as Aerith. I however prefer Aeris over Aerith so I don’t sound like Mike Tyson.
Red XIII is first discovered by the party abused as a science experiment in the Shinra building, and they set him free so he can join in their fight. Red XIII resembles both a dog and a cat, the member of an unnamed species. He’s no animal, though, and there’s a marked intelligence and regality to Red XIII. He comes from Cosmo Canyon, a place with vague Native American connections, and is a disciple of someone who knows much about the state of the Planet. Red’s true name is Nanaki, while “RED XIII” was merely his specimen designation.
As one of the game’s few non-human playable characters, Red XIII is unique. He was the fourth character created by Nomura and his name came from a desire to come up with something different. While “Red XIII” didn’t sound like a name, Nanaki was chosen by the developers because it sounded vaguely Native American. Implementing a four-legged character into the game was difficult but I felt it payed off to create a more diverse cast of characters. Also, his unique connection to the Planet and its past helps to flesh out the world even more, as well as provide an interesting, much more fantasy-esque foil for the industrialism throughout the game.
Cid Highwind joins the party later in the game. He’s an airship pilot and one-time astronaut candidate. He dreamed of going to space and was part of a rocket program, but the countdown of his maiden voyage to the stars had to be cancelled at the very last moment when it was discovered that his assistant Shera was still in the bottom of the rocket, ensuring safety for the launch. Cid blamed Shera for what happened and takes every chance he can to verbally abuse her. It isn’t until much later that he’s able to forgive her when it’s discovered that her safety concerns were very much valid.
Cid has a worse mouth than Barret and is constantly swearing, his fuse seeming to be pretty $@!%&? short. He spits out more grawlixes than anyone else in the game. I was actually pretty surprised by how much swearing there was in FFVII the first time I played it. I was used to reading character dialogue aloud with my own voices, so that presented an immediate problem for twelve-year-old me.
“Cid” is a recurring name in the Final Fantasy franchise for some reason. His last name “Highwind” is also the name of the airship he designed and a name which harkens back to Dragoon class characters like Ricard Highwind and Kain Highwind, which explains his Final Fantasy Dragoon class use of spears and emphasis on flight. The Cids in FF games are typically older, so he at least fits into that category.
Yuffie Kisaragi is one of two optional characters in the game. She’s gained through a sidequest thread and isn’t necessary for completing the story. Combining the typical Final Fantasy Thief and Ninja classes, Yuffie is a rebellious tomboy who claims to be a great ninja and a Materia hunter, though that just means she steals other people’s Materia. Her actual aspirations are more noble, though she’s perhaps a little naive in accomplishing them: she wishes to restore the glory of her homeland, Wutai, through the powers of Materia. A sidequest will take you there to fill out her backstory.
Yuffie is the youngest member of the party and it’s hard to ever take her seriously. She’s bubbly but often rash and impulsive, picking fights easily, and generally she takes stands against any and all forms of tradition. Her surname stems from the Japanese word for “February” and Yuffie apparently comes from an actual Japanese name: Yufi.
The great ninja ended up as an optional character due to being cut from the game for the sake of a lack of time. The other character who ended up with such a fate is Vincent…
You thought Cloud was mysterious. Vincent Valentine is a former member of the Turks with a dark and convoluted background involved with Sephiroth’s origins. Brooding and considered cold by the other party members, Vincent is tortured by his past and speaks of his “sins” he cannot atone for. He’s the polar opposite of Yuffie: slow to speak, secretive, wise in weariness, and essentially a lot like Cloud if the spikey-haired hero had been consumed by his past years down the road without recovery. In that sense, Vincent’s personality is like a cautionary sign for Cloud.
In his past, Vincent was a Turk for Shinra and he fell in love with a researcher by the name of Lucrecia but she became involved with Professor Hojo instead, a warped scientist who impregnated Lucrecia and planned to use the unborn child for experimentation in the Jenova Project. This child became Sephiroth. When Vincent found out what Hojo had done, he confronted the scientist but was injured. Hojo then performed further experiments on Vincent’s body, trapping him in a vampiric state between life and death. Believing that he failed to protect Lucrecia, Vincent slept as an immortal in the Shinra Mansion basement, reliving his nightmares again and again.
Vincent occupies the category of the silent warrior with a mysterious past, similar to characters like Auron. His name and surname means “victorious” and “hale”, though he’s coincidentally neither of those things. He also has an entire game in which he’s the main character: Dirge of Cerberus, a third person shooter. Vincent is a fan favorite for his cool exterior and dark history.
The last playable character to talk about seems to be everyone’s least favorite: Cait Sith. No, he doesn’t fight the Jedi. He’s an animatronic cat riding on a giant toy shaped like a fat moogle which he magically brought to life. Oh and his weapon is a megaphone. Oh and he’s a fortune teller. Oh and for some reason he has this Scottish accent in future spin-offs. Oh and he’s being operated remotely by a member of Shinra’s management, a man named Reeves, whose original motivation was to sabotage Cloud’s quest, though he eventually decides to help the team to save the Planet and stop Sephiroth.
Cait Sith is actually my favorite character in the game! I was surprised (not really) by Black Humor when he mentioned he never used the character in his party. I guess he’s too dopey but at the time I really loved that he was a robot and a non-human character. I also found his personality and motivations interesting but he’s representative of the wackier side of FFVII. I always interpreted Cait Sith as a kind of split personality from Reeves, who is controlling him. Empathetic Reeves is reserved and proper but Cait Sith can be boisterous, cowardly, and assertive. Cait Sith begins following Cloud, forcing himself into the party at Gold Saucer under the pretense that he wanted to see what the fortune he told Cloud meant.
Nobody seems to remember that Cait Sith dies in this game too… yeah, remember that? I cried so hard I didn’t stop for hours and I couldn’t leave my room for weeks afterwards. The feelz. Cait Sith broke me… that is until his replacement, another robot, arrives to take his place.
“Cait Sith” is actually a recurring name in the Final Fantasy series. There are other instances in other games where “Cait Sith” is an enemy monster that can be fought. His name means “faerie cat” in Celtic myth, a ghost that haunts Scotland. Bizarre but that explains the accent in Advent Children, if not the dice and slots.
As you can tell, Final Fantasy VII is a huge game
with an impeccable cast of characters. There’s a lot of story and side quests to keep you busy. It’s an essential game with a legendary status, and I had the privilege of playing it twenty years later. I’m only two years older than this game, so I have no nostalgic connection to it. I’ve only had the words and praises from other players, and because of its legendary status, it’s a game I’ve always wanted to play. I wish I hadn’t waited so long, but I’m glad I was able to play it at all. I am especially glad I was able to play it on the PlayStation 3. This version and its soundtrack are identical to the one on the first PlayStation, and the controllers are essentially the same too.
This game is must-play for anyone who wants to play landmark games. Yet, it’s still an amazing game in general. If you like games with good stories, then consider Final Fantasy VII: one of the greatest video games stories ever told. I’ve played other JRPG’s before, but I’ve never been gripped by one as much this.
Right, there’s just such a unique impact to this game. Language like “it’s still amazing” is revelatory I think of the assumption that video games as a form of art and consumable media have a shelf life which determines their quality, or worse, subtly undermines their historical value (though I don’t presume my Black colleague believes this). We don’t necessarily extend that to other art forms, paintings, poetry, plays, and cinema, do we? When video games “age well” it’s indicative not merely of their graphics holding up but of their importance as vehicles through which resonating stories can be told. That’s a huge explanation for why FFVII has so much lasting appeal. It’s also proof positive that the resonance in video games can stand the test of time, 20 years of time. They can remain powerful, moving, sorrowful, cheering, and frightening even after all those years.
It seems as if gaming history is broken down into multiple eras defined by milestone games. It’s engaged gamers of all ages for two decades now. I remember when it hit the US shores, it exploded. It was the first game I became aware of that had developed an entire lore out of the rumormills. Glitches, secrets, hidden abilities and Materia and story threads abounded when this game was released.
The internet was just starting to spread into people’s homes and with it all sorts of bits of misinformation. On top of that, there was still all the schoolyard talk. I recall that people said you could breed a White Chocobo that could swim underwater and fight the Emerald Weapon. Others said there were stronger summons in the game than Knights of the Round but you had to play the game without using Materia to find them in the actual, geographical Promised Land. Another one said you could obtain the Holy Materia and use it to revive Aeris.
Of course the biggest rumors involved reviving Aeris. As proof, people always pointed to the fact that she has a final Limit Break built into the game. Just check out this extremely outdated Angelfire website (I had one!) with its hilarious Aerith resurrection step-by-step processes hahahaha!
www.angelfire.com/ri2/burnittall/aerisres.html
(click at your own risk)
None of that amounted to actual fact but it was all indicative of the power that Final Fantasy VII had to capture the imagination. VII is a milestone which must be played. It influenced so many games to come in its wake. Gaming hasn’t been the same since.
The 8-bit Review
Visuals: 9/10 7/10
I know that in context of the PlayStation 1 era,
there are parts of the game that looked spectacular. However, for me, it still doesn’t look all that great compared to other games on the system. Even Barbie on PSOne looks better than most of this game, and I don’t even know what Barbie on PSOne looks like!
The main issue I had with this game’s visuals is the chibi style that is used through most of the game. The overworld map, navigating through the cities, and the dialogue driven scenes use these models, and it was very distracting. I realize that these models are 3D interpretations of the 2D sprites from SNES JRPG’s, but that makes me feel like they couldn’t realize the full potential of the technology. Yet, I don’t want to criticize them too harshly for it, since this was their first go. I look at Final Fantasy VIII, which is one of the better looking games on the PSOne, and realize that each game was a learning process.
The character models in Final Fantasy VII are blocky little polygons with circles for hands and trapezoids for arms. The pre-rendered backgrounds they are contrasted against are detailed and colorful, so the sprites don’t look believable in the world. The saving grace of the visuals are the models used in the battles, the cinematic cutscenes, and the unique design. The models used in the battles are amazing. They look on par with games like Metal Gear Solid. The models look more realistic, and have more life to them. The weapons change appearance according to the ones you equip too. It was a nice attention to detail that immersed me more. Some RPGs don’t do that all the time.
Then there’s the full motion 3D cutscenes. These looked amazing for the time, and there wasn’t anything like them. The cinematic scenes felt like a Hollywood movie. There are scenes like the motorcycle chase, the escape on the Highwind, and the ending scene that showcase climactic action, thrill, and adventure. There are only a few of these scenes, but the data size to hold all of them must have been huge, considering the game is separated into three discs.
So I’ll definitely meet you there with the Full Motion Videos. These highly cinematic cutscenes were something that just wasn’t possible with the hardware of the previous generation of home consoles, and they were instantly impressive, especially in the way that they fully fleshed out the characters in their environments as anatomically correct characters. Well, except for the gratuitousness of Tifa… The FMVs were a real reward for completing the game as they were still pretty rare throughout the story. One of the best moments in the game, the motorcycle escape sequence, is fully rendered as an FMV and it’s wonderful.
People who know my take on this know that I’ve long held that late 16-bit has aged far better than early 3D. There’s really no comparison between the fine detail that the Sega Genesis and especially the technically superior Super Nintendo accomplished during their generation and the muddy-textured, drab, polygonal, edgy worlds of early 3D games. With Final Fantasy VII, though, I feel that several facets of the visuals make it the exception to the downright ugliness of prototypical 3D games on home consoles.
First, there are the FMVs we’ve mentioned. On top of that, the character models in battle are amazing and a lot of the monsters and enemies are interesting and fearsome to behold (who can forget Jenova… or that house you fight in Midgar?)! The battle sequences show off really ambidextrous design in the characters and the way they attack, their interchangeable weapons and their Limit Breaks.
Then there’s the pre-rendered backgrounds, essentially 2D digital paintings that the polygonal characters move over in three dimensions. The emphasis on making these as varied and as detailed as possible even threatened to slow down development of the game with how much effort went into them. That effort payed off, though. Each area looks different and dramatic. Some of them are truly nightmarish to try to navigate from peculiar, fixed camera angles but on the whole they were breathtaking in ‘97, especially if you came off the SNES like I did. Tiled pixelated backgrounds couldn’t hold a candle to the ornate structures built into the backgrounds of this game. The game’s emphasis on technology and industry more so than its predecessors allowed for richer and more interesting backdrops, as well.
Finally, there are the field map character models. Yeah, these are pretty dang bad. I get that they were perhaps trying to segue neatly from the sprite styles in previous Final Fantasy games, and these were indeed fairly expressive for what they were, but there are times when the movements of stump-limbs and misshapen bodies becomes laughable. The block models have probably aged the worst out of any visual element in the game. There’s a kind of charm to them, subtly, and they’ll always be what I think of when I read about these characters but I can’t get behind any objective quality for them.
There is some charm to them, I have to admit.
However, nothing about them screams “graphical fidelity”. Tifa, Barret and Cloud look adorable when they are panicking though.
Audio: 10/10 10/10
Nobuo Uematsu’s work put the Final Fantasy series on the map for people taking video game music seriously. That’s one of the legendary composer’s passions. It comes across in a game as diverse, as simultaneously serious and wacky as Final Fantasy VII. This soundtrack is monolithic. You can hear Uematsu’s fondness for Celtic influences but VII’s isn’t a soundtrack that’s limited to specific styles of music. It has rock riffs, carnival tunes, industrial sounds, militarism, mystery, melodrama, gentleness, grandness, and goosebumps. It stretches leitmotifs across so many different flavors of music, incredibly. I still get tingles up my spine when I hear certain tracks. Even with all Uematsu has accomplished, VII may be his finest work (besides for “Dancing Mad”).
Its impact on my life is undeniable. It is the first video game OST I ever bought. It inspired me to take up the piano. I remember blasting the CD at max volume off a big old stereo I had on my desk while I did my homework, headphones in, and I hummed so loud to the themes that my family was laughing in the next room. So many of these songs held me in awe. I remember (before buying the CD) just turning the game on and letting that prelude play over and over again. Beautiful and quite possibly the most iconic RPG soundtrack in history.
My personal favorite video game soundtrack of all time is from Chrono Trigger.
The soundtrack of Final Fantasy VII was similar to it in its diversity and grand scale, but it was much more industrial, and included more bass and high-pitched synths. I love this unforgettable soundtrack; every track fit the setting and occasion perfectly.
I have to agree with Chrono Trigger, but these are five of my favorite tracks from this game, in no particular order. No way I could include all of my favorites! It’d be easier just to name the songs I didn’t like!
“Main theme”. I love this song. So much emotional versatility.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UARM4q7hHU&w=560&h=315]
“The Shinra Corporation” is the equivalent of “The Imperial March” from Star Wars. It’s dreadful, mechanical sound with the choral crying is something that made my skin crawl. Captivating.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj0F2KfCvhg&w=560&h=315]
“Everybody’s Waifu theme” for Tifa was a nurturing, gentle, loving track amid so much darkness.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbOqcR-BORo&w=560&h=315]
“Crazy Motorcycle Chase” is unbelievably pumping. When I was a kid my mom was a physical therapist and fitness instructor. I once convinced her to use this song in a class she did. Coolest mom ever.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrwQPtxR36M&w=560&h=315]
“Valley of the Fallen Star” plays in Cosmo Canyon and its melody is both haunting and triumphant, and also unforgettable.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiJVNzQDdCY&w=560&h=315]
Alas, time fails for naming “Aeris’ theme” (barely squeezed out of my list), “Anxious Heart”, “Costa Del Sol”, “Those Chosen by the Planet”, “Cid’s theme”, “Turks theme”, “Cait Sith’s theme”, “Don of the Slums”, “J-E-N-O-V-A”, “One Winged Angel”, and many more! Oh and “It’s Difficult to Stand on Both Feet” hehehe!
I am in the same school of thought, my top five are in no particular order too,
and it was so hard to narrow it down. Yet, the ones I chose are the ones I felt impacted me the most, and took my breath away.
“J-E-N-O-V-A” is one of the faster-paced songs. I love the start where the high-pitched synths sound like the sky is falling and the drum kicks are pounding. It mixes a sense adrenaline while feeling ethereal at the same time.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6GrZYE2il0&w=560&h=315]
“Prelude” is reminiscent of the “Great Fairy Fountain” from Ocarina of Time. It’s tame and delicate mood gives me the feeling that I’m in a sacred place. The bright synth seems like it could go on endlessly. This song is the bookends of Final Fantasy VII; it plays when you start up the game and shows the credits, and after you watch the final cutscene. Once the game is over this song loops endlessly as the screen displays stars that fall like raindrops. I did not know that you had to turn off the game though, so I waited a few minutes for it to return to the main menu. Then I realized “Oh, this a PlayStation 1 game, it probably doesn’t go back.” It was a nice moment, though.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPx3h5bwXVQ&w=560&h=315]
“Birth of a God” plays in one section of the last boss fight. It’s an intense song with deep piano keys and industrial sounds. It gripped me to the fight in every moment.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQwQnEfbh0U&w=560&h=315]
This song really stood out to me. It plays in some really key moments. It it the eeriest song in the entire game, and it makes me anxious just listening to it.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK84iaAjI2c&w=560&h=315]
I’m not sure why I enjoy this song so much. It’s my favorite one out of all the dungeon-crawling songs because of the bass and harpsichord-like keys that sprinkle the song.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8o9gGOKEg4&w=560&h=315]
Some honorable mentions: “Anxious Heart,” “Fighting,” “Crazy Motorcycle Chase,” “Infiltrating Shinra Tower,” “Aerith’s Theme,” “Parochial Town,” and “World Crisis.”
Gameplay: 9/10 8/10
Poor directional control was a symptom of early 3D games with polygonal models here moving in three-dimensions on flat digital paintings. In some occasions it was actually mindboggling to figure out how to maneuver Cloud a certain way on the field map. You either wanted to zoom in or zoom out, or find a different angle.
Poor directional control? Tell me about it.
When I booted up the game and set the analog controls, nothing was moving. At that point I thought to myself “Oh no, I’m going to have to use the d-pad, aren’t I?” I had to really trudge through the game. There’s a lot of walking in this game too, and my left thumb felt like it was about to form a blister. Angled turns can feel like a chore at times, especially when dungeon crawling.
Another frustrating aspect was the battling. Usually, battles are simple if you have one enemy, but if you have multiple, then it becomes a challenge to target the right enemy when the camera is moving. The camera during the battles are dynamic and cover different angles. So, when you are attacking and you can’t target the right enemy in time before an enemy attacks, it can be frustrating. It’s true when you’re trying to heal or revive a party member too. At one point, I couldn’t revive one of my members because the camera angle wouldn’t allow me to target them. The enemy then proceeded to kill my entire party.
Should’ve used Wait instead of Active for the ATB system, eh?
… It was more exciting that way.
There are times when moving around feels primitive. It feels like they overlooked the movement because they were new to the 3D space. I’m not even sure if the analog PSOne controllers were released it, but if they were, then Square should have utilized them.
Those are my main gripes with the gameplay. However, what Square excelled at was creating RPG’s where the attacks, powers and abilities were so diverse and cool that it creates a paradox of choice! What your party members can do are customizable to your desires. The game is different every time depending how you choose to play it. It’s this freedom that made the battles exciting and experimental.
Seeing which Materia went well together, which attacks enemies were weak to or which attacks were essential for almost every battle created a living ecosystem for the gameplay. The best part of the gameplay is that there was hardly any grinding either, so progressing and battling stayed fresh and didn’t feel like a chore.
Yes, progression is well-balanced in FFVII and sets it apart from the drudgery of early proto-RPGs. I’ve been trying to get into the first Final Fantasy and it just seems like nothing but endless grinding! Things have come a long way since the Light Warriors.
In later FF’s we’ve seen games which feel too linear and constricted, X and XIII, and other which are too open-ended, like XII and XV, but VII opens like a flower, starting in Midgar, then opening up to a portion of the world, then achieving greater modes of transport before everything is opened up. Along the way there are always NPCs to talk to, offshoots to explore, sidequests, and extra world building if you want it. I’ve played some modern RPGs where you can’t even interact with NPCs and I think that’s a mistake!
VII’s world feels alive. This structure of progression allows the player both the luxury of a focused narrative launching pad and the capability to sate curiosity through exploration. Balance is a great reason why VII is often touted as one of the best Final Fantasy games.
Another gameplay aspect to consider is the mini games.
There’s a motorcycle chase, train-hopping, snowboarding, marching in line, etc. On their own, these games would not be very good, but in the context of a long game like Final Fantasy VII, it’s welcomed variety. It does stop the game in its tracks every time, though. Before these mini games can start, the controls have to be explained and then the player has to memorize them.
I think of the parade mini-game in Junon as the perfect example of what you’re talking about. It seemed weird to have to learn all these controls for a short mini-game but in retrospect I think it made an event out of visiting Junon then. Instead of just running through the city, maybe with a few conversations or a battle, you would remember the moment you were forced into a parade for Rufus. The mini-games are generally pretty amusing so they also break up the bleakness of the story nicely, when needed, though he’s right: they do stop the narrative from immediately progressing in the sense of us learning something new about the plot. They flesh out the world itself and frame what’s going on, instead.
Final Fantasy is a series that has been built on character customization from the beginning, so it’s a keen observation that Black Humor pointed out the benefits of including this design philosophy. In an RPG, there aren’t too many reasons to come back and play the game again after beating it, but with a Final Fantasy you have the option of playing through the game with a different set up of character classes, abilities, spells and so on. In Final Fantasy VII, that means Materia.
Materia is formed as crystallizations of the Lifestream, so it has a story-explanation which I thought was unique, rather than everyone just being able to inexplicably use magic. When you acquire pieces of Materia, like items, you can attach them to your weapons or gear in order to use specific magical attacks or supporting abilities. Materia can be used in combinations to make for more powerful effects and there are many different kinds of Materia to find (one of the best parts of exploring this game’s world).
Because you can equip Materia on any character, essentially you can grow the character into the kind of class that you want so the “job system” equivalent in VII is very fluid. Further, you gain not only EXP but also AP from victories in battle. AP levels up Materia currently equipped to your party members, improving abilities gained through the Materia. On top of that, Materia affects the stats of the characters it’s equipped to. So for example one piece of Materia may lower HP but boost MP in its place, though this isn’t a big enough factor to mitigate experimenting with any character in any “role” in combat with whatever Materia you’d like to use: Magic, Summon, Command, Independent, or Support Materia. It’s really a very cool system and it’s fascinating to see how Square played around with the traditional skill trees and magic trees in their RPGs over the years.
Narrative: 10/10 10/10
SPOILERS! Ctrl+f Challenge if you want to skip ’em.
The beginning of the narrative is Hollywood-esque in scope.
The way it is presented at the beginning feels like an 80’s action movie. The thrilling action of a group of terrorists sneaking through reactors and taking out soldiers isn’t stopped. It felt like I was playing an action game with the surprisingly quick pace it was moving at.
See, the creators even wanted to give you the feeling that the game was cinematic in the game over screen!
The characters you first meet are Barret Wallace, Cloud Strife, Biggs, Wedge and Jessie. Besides Cloud, these characters are part of the eco-terrorist organization AVALANCHE. AVALANCHE’s goal is to save the planet from greedy corporations that are draining its Mako resources. Already, this theme of industrial and technological expansion destroying nature feels familiar. If you watch or read a lot of Japanese material, this seems to be a common theme. This especially true if you watch Studio Ghibli movies. There is a lot of truth behind this theme, and the more the years go by, the earth only suffers by careless and greedy corporations.
I agree and think the subject of ecology is a very important one. I also think the ending of the game (not to jump too far ahead) is intentionally vague in this respect, since one possible answer to the problem of the human effect on nature is eliminating the human problem. Does that actually happen at the end of the game? Will it take the annihilation of the human species or of human civilization in order to restore “the balance”? Do we have to go back to hunter-gatherers and is it too late to make a difference now? I think that the heroes of VII, while labeled terrorists, are individuals striving to make a difference. I think that’s the important thing. Not the terrorism part, though.
The only way AVALANCHE sees a way out of it is
by hitting the Shinra corporation hard. They hire Cloud to help them blow up Mako reactors belonging to Shinra. Cloud is a mercenary, and ex-SOLDIER. SOLDIER is the private army of Shinra, so Cloud has a history with the corporation he is helping attack. Yet, Cloud seems very apathetic to everything going on around him. This concerns Tifa Lockhart, his friend who tries to bring the best out of Cloud. She also is assisting AVALANCHE from her bar. It is a haven for the organization where Cloud and Barret return after the first successful reactor bombing.
The second reactor bombing goes wrong and Cloud falls from a high place and into a church where a small garden of flowers grows from the stone ground. This is where Cloud meets Aeris Gainsborough, a woman who sells flowers. She is soft-spoken and angelic, contrasting the slums of Midgar where she resides. The imagery is strong here, as she is like the flowers that grew from the stone. Cloud and Aeris gravitate to each other, and it’s like they’ve known each other for a long time (maybe they have?) However, Cloud and Aeris are interrupted by one of the Turks and SOLDIER, both part of Shinra’s armed forces.
The Turks are a secret agency that work for Shinra. The group is comprised of Tseng, Elena, Rude, and Reno. When Cloud and Aeris meet, Reno is the Turk leading the SOLDIER squad. He’s a sly, cocky guy and I don’t see much motivation in him other than to prove himself. Fanfic writers like him a lot too for some reason…
Cloud and Aeris escape, and Cloud gets to see where she lives with her adoptive mother. You learn a little more about Aeris, and she and Cloud get to have a few moments together. They are sitting atop a dome in the middle of a playground when they spot Tifa. They follow her to Don Corneo’s mansion. Corneo is a sleaze-bag that only allows women into his mansion where he picks one to be his wife of the week and he can do whatever he wants to them. Gross. Anyways, Cloud’s only option to get inside? Disguise himself as woman. You go into a shop to get a dress made to fit Cloud, and the option to go into the Honeybee Inn for a more convincing get-up. Unfortunately, I totally forgot to go back to that area, so I never got to see the Inn.
This part of the game is iconic. It represents the first time the player witnesses the quirk that is so contrasted against the dreary tone. It’s humorous, and the Final Fantasy VII Remake team promised to include it. So, I can’t wait to see Cloud dressed as a woman in HD. Along with those houses they fight around the same area!
As it turns out, Tifa was trying to get information from Don Corneo about Shinra. They don’t get much, and suddenly Cloud, Aeris, and Tifa are dropped into a sewer via a trap door. They make their way out where Barret and the AVALANCHE crew are fighting Shinra forces atop a pillar in Sector 7 of Midgar. Wedge falls and gets seriously injured. Jessie is breathing her last breaths on the stairs of the pillar Cloud has to climb, and you get a final moment with her. Cloud and Tifa reach the top where you assist Barrett in fighting the Turks.
Barrett, Cloud, and Tifa defeat Reno in a boss battle, but he escapes on a helicopter with his leader, Tseng. Tseng reveals that they have kidnapped Aeris and have rigged the tower they are standing on to explode and drop the plate above the slums of Sector 7. Cloud, Barret, and Tifa escape, but Sector 7 is crushed and kills millions of people with it. It is one of the darkest moments of the game, and I truly felt awful about what happened.
The scene during this event that struck me the most was when the camera angle was inside a house of Sector 7 and focused on a television with a news anchor. You can see the city being destroyed in the background through a window and the news anchor flinching as static engulfs the television screen. It was a visceral way to present the scene and it absolutely shocked me. It was utterly vile, and went to prove how evil Shinra was.
I remember denying that the AVALANCHE members Biggs, Jessie, and Wedge truly died, and that they would come back once the main characters got away, but they never did. And this was the first time I realized what kind of weight this game could throw on you. This is where you see Barret at one of his lowest moments, too. Shinra only collapsed that plate to try and get rid of AVALANCHE, so Barrett obviously blamed himself for millions of deaths. That kind of guilt is unfathomable.
Cloud and Tifa are able to bring Barret back from the brink. All three of them, more determined than ever, sneak through the Shinra headquarters to save Aeris. This is when they meet, Hojo, a mad scientist and his experiment: Red XIII. Red XIII is some sort of wolf-lion with fire on the tip of his tail. He is a long-living creature that has an ancient connection to the Planet. He attacks Hojo, and joins Cloud and the gang
Unfortunately, they are all caught and imprisoned. Biding their time in the cells, something sinister suddenly releases them. The group walks out into the hallway to the sight of dead SOLDIER guards all bloodied and gored. This is where the game starts to shift its dreary tone to something that feels more evil and menacing. This is where the player meets Sephiroth.
Sephiroth is the game’s main antagonist, a former SOLDIER extraordinaire who became a legend in combat, raised by Shinra. He unfortunately went insane (for lack of better terminology) and became obsessed with Jenova, an alien that came to the Planet in ancient times and was directly opposed to the Planet, believing the remains of the creature to be his mother. When he found out that he had been experimented on as an unborn child, infused with Jenova’s cells, he went off the rails and burned down Nibelheim, Cloud’s childhood home, where Sephiroth had discovered his true origins. The game is spent trying to hunt him down, but it’s like hunting ghosts.
He can extend his will into people injected with Jenova cells, which unfortunately includes Cloud. His goal in the game is to use the Black Materia to summon catastrophic Meteor to take vengeance against them for the Cetra (who he believes he’s descended from) and merge with the Lifestream that will heal the Planet’s wound from Meteor to become a god.
His name is appropriate: in Hebrew Sephirot is a medieval word that refers to the “manifestations of God”. His single wing is a reference to the non-canonical pseudepigrapha Testament of Solomon in which a demon bears a single wing, the mutilation a visual symbol of his fall from heaven, similar to Sephiroth’s fall from fame into god-complex level madness (you need a whole encyclopedia for this stuff). What a terrifying villain and no wonder he’s one of gaming’s most enduring.
Back to you, Black Humor.
Back in the story, Cloud and the gang find Shinra’s president
murdered by a sword through his torso. It is presumably Sephiroth’s sword. Cloud then meets the president’s son, Rufus. Rufus is a secondary antagonist, with companions like the hot-headed fat man, Heidegger, and the sadistic woman, Scarlet. They are classically evil antagonists that seek the “Promised Land” that is filled with Lifestream.
Lifestream is kind of unexplained, but I’ve read that it is powerful energy made of souls. From this place, Shinra wants to drain more resources from the Planet for their own gain. Sephiroth wants the Lifestream too, but he wants to use it to wound the Planet and become a god when the Lifestream attempts to heal itself, like Red Mage explained earlier.
Once Cloud and the gang defeat Rufus and escape from Midgar, the world opens up. You find your way all over continents of the Planet of Gaia. Gaia, is the Planet Final Fantasy VII takes place on, if we haven’t mentioned it before. Gaia is dynamic, and every city or territory is different from each other. Places like Cosmo Canyon, Bone Village, Costa Del Sol, Gold Saucer, Junon, Mount Nibel, and Wutai continue to add depth and color to the world.
Cloud and the gang meet people at these places. Some stick around: Cait Sith, Cid Highwind, Vincent Valentine, and Yuffie Kisaragi, who were expanded upon by Well Red Mage in the first half of this review. The characters are fantastic (except Cait Sith), and I wish I could have kept all of them in my party equally (except Cait Sith.)
Cait Sith is Shakespearean! If you want only whitebread human characters, play VIII.
The other NPC’s you meet reveal the state Gaia is in. You meet weary people,
tired workers, dirty crooks and murderers, simple village folk with some hope, and sometimes people without a care in the world like on the beach of Costa Del Sol. This game does a fantastic job of letting the player meet the world they are trying to save. There’s more motivation this way when you see the hope in people. Then there’s the hope of Aeris.
At one point, after Sephiroth’s plot to crash a meteor into the Planet is revealed, Aeris is revealed to be a descendant of ancient Cetra who are a tribe of humans connected to the Planet. She prays to the Planet for help, but Sephiroth attempts to stop her by having Cloud murder her. He can control Cloud, but Cloud resists, leaving Sephiroth to infamously kill Aeris. This is one of those “I am your father” moments in gaming. I had already known for years that Sephiroth murders Aeris because gamers can’t keep their mouth shut. Yet, I was surprised at how early it happens in the game. It happens right at the end of the first disc, and there are three discs. This was another moment that struck me, and made me understand why Aeris was so vital to saving the world. Her prayers connected her to the Lifestream, and you see it happen later on.
There’s also motivation in Cloud’s story. He starts off very apathetic, but grows more and more to compassionate. He realizes his duty of stopping Sephiroth since they worked together. Or did they? Part of the game starts to focus on Cloud’s past. He remembers being a part of first class SOLDIER five years ago and returning to his hometown with Sephiroth. He reunites with Tifa after a few years gone. However, this is where Sephiroth finds his mother, the ancient alien Jenova, and it drives him so mad that he proceeds to murder everyone in the town and burns it down. That image of Sephiroth in the flames is a hellish nightmare that haunts Cloud.
Cloud rembers stabbing Sephiroth with his buster sword and throwing him down a pit, then saving Tifa. However in the present day, Sephiroth reveals that none of these memories are true, and that there was a first class SOLDIER by the name of Zack who Cloud began to subconsciously impersonate. Zack and Aeris were a couple too, so this explained why Cloud and Aeris had gravitated toward each other. Sephiroth even reveals that Cloud might be his clone, created by the mad scientist Hojo.
It becomes a mystery as to what Cloud’s true past is, and Tifa and Cloud become so distraught at the idea that they weren’t childhood friends and that Cloud didn’t return to their hometown to save her from Sephiroth. I even became anxious at this idea too, and thought that every moment Cloud and Tifa shared during the game was meaningless if it wasn’t preceded by a past friendship. This was the moment I realized I actually cared about the characters deeply.
After some time, Cloud and the gang find Sephiroth after searching for him for so long. He is resting in the promised land, and summons the meteor. Cloud throw himself into the Lifestream to attempt to stop it. Weapons, the Godzilla-like earth creatures, are summoned by the Planet to protect it. One of the creatures attacks Junon, attacking Shrina headquarters and killing Rufus Shinra.
Presumably!!
After throwing himself into the Lifestream,
Cloud becomes heavily irradiated and goes into a catatonic state. Tifa decides to care for him, not caring whether or not their past was real. It was a tender moment revealing Tifa’s nurturing nature. It made me realize why people live Tifa Lockhart so much. She is just a genuinely good person.
With Cloud indisposed, it leads to moments like having Cid lead the party after he is elected. It funny to see him so proudly take on this role. He and Barret take care of more business. Eventually though, Cloud true memories come flooding back after one of the Weapons destroys the island and he and Tifa fall into the Lifestream. It is true that he and Tifa were childhood friends. In fact, he promised to become SOLDIER and come back. He did come back on the fateful day Sephiroth murdered his town. Zack was there too, as the first class SOLDIER, but that’s where met his end. Cloud was there as a lower level infantry, but actually stopped Sephiroth and saved Tifa.
The prayers of Aeris had been answered, and the Planet was using holy energy to stop the meteor from impacting. Sephiroth and Jenova stop this, and the meteor continues to fall to an unprotected Gaia. All hope is lost, and the rest of the gang go back home to spend their last moments with friends and family. Tifa and Cloud spend their last moments together underneath Cid’s ship the Highwind. The next morning Cid, Barret and everyone else return to stop Sephiroth and Jenova, with just a sliver of hope left. They have nothing to lose.
Cloud, Tifa, and the rest travel to core of the Planet, and after a long dungeon crawl, they defeat Jenova and a god-like Sephiroth. Sephiroth’s ultimate form is a demonic sight to behold. Both entities are now unable to block the Holy. The meteor begins to impact the Planet, the Holy begins to break under pressure, but the Lifestream comes to the rescue and blocks the meteor as well. The meteor impacts, and the story ends so vaguely. Cloud and the gang are standing in the Highwind, watching the meteor impact, and it cuts to 500 years later. We see Red XIII with his Cubs, overlooking Midgar, abandoned and reclaimed by nature.
This vague ending leaves a lot of questions. Shoot, this entire game leaves the player with a lot of questions. Ultimately, the theme seems to be one of ecology. The ending implies that perhaps the Planet is better off without humans. It left me with a sort of guilty feeling, but at the same time I realized that maybe the message was for us as humans to protect the earth, and to try balance our technology to not pollute it. The earth can do without us, but we can’t do without it.
The story and lore of Final Fantasy VII is so vast, and I wish I could talk about everything, but that would take a whole separate article. The story is impressive, and so gripping with many of the characters being integral that it all of it felt important. Sakaguchi and his team created something wonderful and special with its story. It’s a story to celebrate life and to celebrate each other. The message to protect the things that matter most resonates throughout.
Final Fantasy VII told its story based on a wealth of world-building and background information that you only come to piece together throughout the game. So many lies are told you as the player that it becomes hard to believe what is real and what isn’t, just like Cloud. Add to that definite continuity issues and plot holes which aren’t so much glaring as they are mysterious and there’s a lot of mystique in this game. Even things like translation issues and typos couldn’t bring this game down!
Challenge: 8/10 8/10
The Challenge category has always been one with a slightly different perspective for our grading purposes. Challenge is undoubtedly an important aspect of any video game but there’s no question that “better challenge” isn’t the same thing as “better graphics” or “better music”. “Better challenge” doesn’t necessarily mean more challenge, as several games that are too challenging can end up being frustrating. Ever wise, one of our contributors by the name of the Sincere Scholar Mage shared this image with me that I think helps sum up the distinctiveness of this category, very much in a nutshell:
Essentially, Final Fantasy VII is getting such a high score in terms of Challenge not because it’s one of the hardest RPGs to ever exist but because it’s a game you can sink your teeth into, because it can’t be too easily broken with over-levelling (saw a mainstream article earlier advocating cheating for this game). It features a smorgasbord of extra content representing more time-consuming and difficult tasks: breeding a Gold Chocobo and fighting the Emerald Weapon. Both of those come to mind as examples of extra content in the game that helps provide difficulty beyond beating Sephiroth, which in itself is quite the layered boss fight. This is a game which remains enjoyable but which also sets some demands on the player to master it. VII is about balance, even in this respect.
I didn’t feel like Final Fantasy VII was extremely difficult,
but it wasn’t too easy either. There were times where a boss kept killing me, and I had to rethink my strategy and equip different weapons, Materia, or attire. It’s a game that keeps you thinking and balancing your options. However, there are some end-game activities that would take a lot of work, and are a new challenge unto themselves.
Replayability: 10/10 9/10
Why do people keep coming back to play Final Fantasy VII? I’ve played through it nearly a dozen times but I know others have done much more. I even watched the GDQ speedrun on this game and I was blown away by how well they knew the ins and outs. But why? Why is it so replayable?
There are probably many reasons, subjective and otherwise, but definitely the vagueness of the story and the emphasis on mystery warrants coming back to iron things out in your head. Also, and more importantly, I think the sidequests are just so appealing. Event mini-games, Gold Saucer (my favorite place in the game), chocobo husbandry, hidden materia, post-game bosses… these are means of keeping the storyline from being too bleak, infusing humor and joy into the game but they also lengthen its general play time. Raising and breeding chocobos, then racing them, is one of my favorite parts in this game. I still think it’s the best chocobo sidequest we’ve ever seen in the Final Fantasy franchise.
The last save point before you beat the main story is right before
you go into the last boss area. Once you beat the last boss, you return to the last save point. Now you have the freedom to go back and complete everything you couldn’t like defeating the Weapons, earning the best weapons, or maxing out the levels and limit breaks of all the characters. There is a lot to keep you busy, and you can keep fighting the last boss over and over again.
As Red mentioned, there’s side stuff like chocobo breeding or Gold Saucer mini-games. You have to travel at length to these places that Final Fantasy VII almost becomes open-world. Open-world games can have a lot of fluff, but the end-game activities in Final Fantasy VII do so much to change the gameplay that it is rewarding to go back.
I personally have not done a lot of the extra activities, but it is nice to know it’s there. I have a huge backlog of games to get through, so I moved on from Final Fantasy VII. However, I can envision a time in the 90’s where there were less games to get through, and the internet was not as robust as it is now, and I think to myself that everything to do in Final Fantasy VII would’ve had an extreme amount of value and replayability.
Uniqueness: 10/10 10/10
Even though it’s the seventh in a series of numerical entries, Final Fantasy VII was innovative and different. This game is so unique in its level of quirkiness and seriousness. It tells a dramatic story with some emotional scenes while at the same time it has some truly bizarre and silly moments: Honeybee Inn, Tifa slapfight, Heidegger punching everyone, arcade games at the Gold Saucer, threatening Don Corneo… It’s a balance that’s unlike any other game I can think of.
Likely it’ll remain unique even in comparison to its eventual remake, should that ever actually be released. I personally believe that the remake is going to be much more in the vein of “hypercool anime” Advent Children than in the flavor of the original game, which has far fewer anime vibes. But the perception of this world and its characters has evolved over time thanks to the fandom and spin offs. For the better? Well…
I also doubt that we’ll be seeing in HD realistic graphics the likes of Red XIII dressed as a human sailor hilariously attempting to walk on two legs. While moments like these in the original VII are memorable and weird with the deformed character models, it’s not possible to suspend one’s disbelief so far in realistic graphics to think that anyone wouldn’t recognize a giant cat-dog in human clothes… Heck, what is Cait Sith going to be like?! These are the benefits of suggestive graphics versus realistic graphics, and that difference deepens the capabilities of video games across their history. It’s why old graphics are valuable “still”. What we’ll likely get in the remake is a watered down FFVII focused more on the violence and the darkness, the coolness factor, but that’s just my guess.
Hey, thanks for spending most of the uniqueness section
complaining like an old man about how great everything use to be! Then again, I complained heavily like a young punk about how old stuff looks bad. Anyways, Final Fantasy VII is game unlike any other I’ve played. It blends sci-fi and high fantasy in such a dark and charming combination. The characters are some of the most memorable in gaming history, and the story is so galactic. Yes, it’s a standard JRPG in a lot of ways, but it is still a landmark JRPG.
Our Personal Grade: 10/10 10/10
What you have represented in the scores of this Dualcast Review are two schools of thought affected by our place in time. There’s an age gap between the Black Humor Mage and myself so I grew up with Final Fantasy VII, meaning the game had a huge impact on my perspective on games from an early age, whereas Black Humor had the opportunity to play the game with fully-formed adult intellect and the vantage point of modernity. Our scores represent a nostalgia-influenced review and a current gen-influenced review. Nobody is without bias, remember. That’s a myth in journalism. The surprising thing is that our final scores are really not so far off from each other. Maybe that’s not a surprise at all. The tiny gap between 9.5 and 9.0, just half a full point, represents just how enduring Final Fantasy VII is as a quality piece of interactive storytelling. If you’re wondering why it’s not higher, stop picking nits.
This was very much an experiment and I’m grateful to the Black Humor Mage for agreeing to do this first ever Dualcast Review with me on a game which is so important to so many people. I believe we’ve emphasized this game’s strongest points while still touching on its shortcomings. I’d score certain parts higher if we could but there are no elevens out of ten. So then the final score really reflects the whole game, but its individual strengths cannot be overstated.
Yeah that’s how every game works.
I think our personal scores do more to say how we actually feel about our experience, but the aggregate is the sum of its parts and how they all work together on a technical level.
EXACTLY and that’s why there ought to be so few games rated a perfect technical 10. But the nature of that 10 is debatable with some folks. Bear in mind these are our opinions, people.
Yeah, that’s nearly impossible when you have to consider everything.
Usually I rate a movie and I don’t consider its parts and just give it one score on IMDb. I feel like the personal grade is like that. And I believe there are movies that can be tens considering what it’s accomplished, and there’s no glaring issues or things I absolutely hated about it. Final Fantasy VII is a game that accomplished so much, and it really impressed that I could look past many of its shortcomings.
Yep, so there’s a balance here and it facilitates getting down into the nitty gritty while at the same time making general claims.
For Sakaguchi, this game tackles the theme of life, a theme which he wanted to get into for a while. His mother’s death made this theme especially significant in his own personal life and he’s reflected upon the value of life in the face of death. He’s also mentioned how in this game he wanted to approach that theme from a mathematical and logical angle, to help him overcome, but of course we’re emotional beings and this game is undoubtedly emotional.
If you’re reading this, you’re experiencing life, but you’re also going to experience death. Impermanence is a big theme in Japanese storytelling, poetry, and philosophy. It’s one that I think brings even more value to living, if we realize how short life is, and Final Fantasy VII is a game that showed me the value in being alive. I think that Sakaguchi’s feelings trickled down through the development, through the staff, and into the final product so that this game means so much to so many different people.
This game did mean a lot to me. I was captivated by the story and its characters,
and whenever I played it, I felt like I was experiencing something important. I shared an experience that many other gamers went through, and I would give this game an eleven if I could.
So here’s to the 20th anniversary of Final Fantasy VII, one of the most captivating, most enchanting, and most enduring works in gaming. It is a music maker. It is a dreamer of dreams. Share your experiences with the game! Why do you think it is so special? What does Final Fantasy VII mean to you?
WRM Aggregated Score: 9.5
BHM Aggregated Score: 9.0
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mm i agree with pretty much everything here and at the time of ff7 being the “shitzz at the time you have look at what it brings like it when from ff 6 pix models to these 3ds models which were big at time the ost I can listen to this alll day but a few are my personal fav https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ_8HhDvgbQ.also the humor having change barret name to mr. t come on guy was similar to him and while i do love tifa and her suplex the weapons she carry you legacy sabin, i just love Aeris,FF7 is kinda like re4 at this point and i think they great games yet it the game everyone going try at one point even if they never try it. me ff7 is one game I grew up with so I’m going keep playing to try and get the KNOTR MATERIAL
Thanks for the comment!
HOLY WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
I read this, then I read the comments betwixt everybody (gumbo’s wasn’t helpful, so ignored) then read Shamefuls &…
&… I repeat: HOLY WOW!!!!!!!!
Obvs, I’ve prostrated my love for FF7 (The Only True Greatest Game Of All Time!!!!!)
in previous comments, so I shall simply say this:
My name is Henry Ofosu Gillett, I’m 32, mixed race, a gamer, & I love you Well Red, You, Black Humour & you too, Shameful Narcissist, from 1 yr ago (1st time scrolling archives & comments) till The End Of Time!!!!!!
Thank you for this, I needed some joy in my life right now, so, truly & respectfully, THANK YOU!!!! *Bows Politely*
Fantastic and beefy review that manages to fairly dissect and review a game that has become something of a sacred cow in the gaming industry.
I’m really tempted after reading it to go grab the version that is on the PSN store, because goodness knows we won’t be playing the remake any time soon.
Thanks, my friend! This was a really hard review to put together but worth it in my opinion for a game as important as this one. Thinking over it again, I’d like to criticize more of it more so than just in terms of its visuals, but such is life.
To paraphrase Cid Highwind: Holy %&*#, this was an epic &*#$%^’ write-up! My god, I love the concept of a Dualcast Review, very original! And the fact that you got two different perspectives agreeing that Final Fantasy VII is a great RPG despite its age is a testament to its ever-enduring legacy as a GOAT.
I have SO much to say on this game itself – I’ll be writing my own post about the game in the next few weeks – but, long story short, FFVII was the reason I got a Memory Card for my Playstation in the first place. I’m not kidding. So yeah, it has a special place in my heart.
#%&$@ing thank you! 😀 Yeah even though two of us poured over ten thousand words (and some deep magic) into this Dualcast, I still feel like we could’ve delved into it plenty more. There’s the layers of symbolism alone that could fill up encyclopedias. Thanks for reading our take about this special game so many of us cherish!
What an epic write up! I’ve yet to finish this game. I played almost near the end and i think i just had the final battle to complete. I definitely plan to play it in it’s entirety with the goal of actually completing it. It’s always great to relive the great music and see the bad, but charming visuals.
Alot of good info in the game and it’s history here that I would have otherwise not known. Good job again for this dual review 🙂
Thank you for reading and for your friendly comment! This was a really challenging piece to put together between two people, maybe the most challenging we’ve done here. But the warm reception it’s received makes it all worth it. I can’t get FFVII out of my head now! I’ve been listening to the soundtrack again and again. Tomorrow the Black Humor Mage and I are planning to record our voices for an Audio review based on this post. It’s the review that keeps on demanding! 😀
Holy shit, my WordPress app just auto scrolled through the hordes of comments here. Talk about a good reception.
Looking forward to the review of the review! This is pretty inspiring really. I want to show my appreciation for my favourite game in a similar way.
A finished project is its own reward but a nice response is of course nice. Games are just such a source of joy and it’s really great to be able to dedicate some time and effort into a tribute for one of your favorites. It’s a perk for the game reviewer!
Amazing post! Now, confession time: this is one of the games I still have to finish. Never had a PS but I bought it as soon as it was released digitally (original version). I started it, but I still need to find the moment to properly play it. I know it won’t be the same than 20 years ago, but I hope still retains most of its magic.
Thanks so much, GamingPicks! It was really hard to put together but the warm reception helps make it all worth it. I hope you get the chance to finish it someday, especially before the Remake drops (if ever)! I really think the key areas retain a lot of value: the gameplay and the storytelling.
FFVII had a huge impact on me – I was 13 when I played it on the PC. The story is very engrossing but, for anyone who reads, nothing new beyond a Shakespearian tragedy, but it’s the fact you’re involved in it. The opening 20 minutes – just stunning. The remake was a stupid idea and panders to the graphics morons I’ve ranted about elsewhere, and whilst it’s also, arguably, the last classic FF I’d state that it’s because this one is genius.
Thanks for the comment! It’s had such an impact on so many. I think world building is a huge aspect of FFVII’s story, like it’s such an interesting world and it felt so alive and full of character. As for the Remake, I’m on the fence. I hope it doesn’t turn out to recton VII to be more like Advent Children.
This was really well put together. It took a while to read, but it was worth it. The length really makes it feel like the most dedicated tribute to the game that seems to be your favourite ever. DualCast reviews should definitely become a more regular feature, though I understand how long that would probably take, even if a review is better for having multiple opinions. I’m sure many of us would be interested in doing them.
Thanks for your comment, PP Mage! We couldn’t be the best informed or the smartest reviewers on its 20th anniversary, or even match the resources of mainstream which interviewed devs and creators for the game, but we could put as much effort into our post as possible. The Dualcast was a lot of fun but these are really hard to put together, and time consuming, I can attest to. I’d love to see more of these too, for the sake of dual opinions.
Hey thanks for the comment! The dualcast was a fine idea, and I’m glad Red Mage brought it up. I think tackling a game this huge would have been harder if I had done it on my own.
When I first played this game all those years ago, I thought Cait was the cat and Sith was the big pink thing. I also wasted a butt load of time searching for what this exciting new thing called a “Last Elixir” was in my inventory.
The soundtrack I feel is one aspect that sometimes gets pushed to the side in discussions of FFVII. We all tend to focus on the big hits like “J-E-N-O-V-A” and “One Winged Angel”, but the whole OST is fantastic. The music itself is good, but like you two mentioned, it’s good at being tied to the game itself, to get you emotional.
Anyway, fascinating read! Hoping for more Dualcasts!
Haha crazy small world, I thought something similar about Cait Sith! I always thought Cait Sith was the fat white moogle, and I barely noticed the cat on top. The soundtrack is definitely up there as one of the most important facets of this game! It was huge in getting me musically involved, as I mentioned. Also as I mentioned, I’d sooner be able to pick out my least favorite tracks then my favorites. Almost the entire OST is my favorite. I actually don’t particularly care too much for “One Winged Angel”, though it’s undeniably epic and iconic. I’m fairly comfortable with the top five I named. I could listen to Cosmo Canyon all day err day! What are your top five favorite tracks off this OST?
Hard choice, but I guess:
Aerith’s Theme
J-E-N-O-V-A
JENOVA Absolute
Those Who Fight Further
The Great Warrior
Although just play a random track, and I’ll probably be like, “Dang, I should have added that to my list!”
Yeah I can really only think of 2 or 3 songs that I actually don’t care for, and it’s not like I detest them or anything. This is probably the greatest soundtrack in video game history.
Great read you two! I’m impressed by how in-depth this review is. I love the back and forth and the two different perspectives on the legendary FF7. I had no idea about the FF6 tech demo and had to go watch a video of it for myself. I love the details of the game and story development, which I never really heard about until reading this. PKD references are always a plus in my book too. I’m not a fan at all of ‘chibi’ style, and now I know what to call it! This has been a wonderful read and inspired me to go off and get me a FF game to play. I’ll wait for the FF7 remake, but until then I’m gonna play Zodiac Age for the first time.
Thanks, Wakalapi! I appreciate you took the time to chew through it all with everything else you’re managing! This was very much an experiment and I’m happy it turned out the way it did. We could’ve maybe used another week but we barely made it in time for the Sept. 7th date. I didn’t think it was going to get done at all! Google Docs is a lifesaver for a project like this.
Hey! I’m glad we could at least inform someone about something they hadn’t heard of before! What was the last FF you played? Zodiac Age is a beast, hope you enjoy it!
I think the last Final Fantasy I played was 10-2 when it came out. haha, so it’s been awhile. And I really did enjoy all the cool facts, etymology, and giving the main characters a special treatment. Its definitely one of my faves from TWRM site now.
I’m managing, but pleasure reading (and commenting), such as this, isn’t really an issue. And a bit of pleasure gaming on the side is a nice release valve too. 😉 Its the other tasks like reading these in-depth books and articles, preparing lectures, research, writing and other “professorial” things, that are the big taxers.
Such is adulting.
Adulting… ah man… Well, I hope you enjoy Zodiac Age when you get the opportunity for it. As I recall, that one didn’t have too much of an etymological or mythological background compared to older titles. Not in an obvious way. I was talking with a commenter about putting together a Final Fantasy myth references encyclopedia. It’s a good series for that.
I look forward to enjoying Zodiac Age.
Yeah, the FF series does draw from a lot of myth, sometimes in a more meaningful way than others. At times it seems skin deep, while at others you could argue that it does go beyond that. I’m not sure that I learned anything about Odin, for example from FF6 other than wondering who that was and why the heck was he in the basement of a ghost castle. Personally, its a bit of a stretch to have to try to interpret anything meaningful out of it other than the devs were simply drawing from Odin’s mystique. Regardless, it pushed me to look it up when I was a kid. That’s still a lot more than nothing.
It would be interesting in the encyclopedia to also detail to what depth the devs used it!
Oh! and I was wondering if you have a reference/citation to story of the character creation of Red? Would be good to have on hand for critical media studies concerning native american representations in gaming.
Thanks for the comment! Enjoy Zodiac Age, that game is on my wishlist for sure
Wow, what a write up! Long but good read!
Yeah, FF7 is definitely one of those games that needs to be included in the pantheon of “stuff that made gaming history”. To this day it remains an icon in the gaming community and for good reason!
I’m a little concerned about this ‘re-imagining’ of the game, and am really hoping they do it justice.
Yes! This game is definitely among the most historically significant games in video gaming history. It definitely seems like a milestone, and it’s affected so many people. Concern is a good way to express my thoughts on the Remake as well. I mean, I’m of the camp that says a Remake doesn’t change the fact that the original exists, so I’m not worried. But I know the Remake won’t capture the flavor of the original, I don’t think. I think it’ll be more like Advent Children from what we’ve seen.
It’s using the Luminous engine created for FF15. If you don’t like how 15 looks or runs you might have issues with this remake. I saw they were even talking about the new ‘cover’ mechanic which is the same mechanic in 15 for recovering MP. It will be interesting.
I didn’t like XV but for storytelling and structure reasons. I did think the magic system was incredibly stupid, as was teleporting and generally just holding a single button down to win a fight. It leaned more toward the action than the strategy for an RPG, for me. Ah well, it’s not like I’m not going to buy it!
This is an excellent write-up 🙂 FFVII has been my favourite game of all time since it came out (although it’s in danger of losing it’s throne to XIV). Cloud is the game character I relate to the most, and Advent Children made relate to him in an even more personal way. I won’t get into why, as most people hate AC. But honestly… VII, Advent Children, and Crisis Core combined represent something very special to me. It’s no coincidence in fact that my baby is called Zack 🙂
Thanks for putting a tremendous amount of work into this. It’s clearly a labour of love. Well done 🙂
Hey thanks, Fed! I’m glad you fed well on this review 😉 I’m open to hearing why if you’re open to sharing. I didn’t care for Advent Children in comparison to FFVII but I didn’t hate it. I just didn’t like that direction they took the characters in. That’s not to say I wouldn’t appreciate shared life experiences. I think that pieces of entertainment can mean a lot of things to a lot of people, in a personal way.
I finally, FINALLY get to pick the “Best Game Ever” option in your poll. What can I even say? I’m working on my own FFVII anniversary post as we speak, but I saw this, and of course had to drop every thing and read it. I’ll just add a few source/symbolism tidbits (few? haha, I’m proofreading my comment, because…perfectionist).
There’s too much to say about the name Sephiroth, and I spent about a decade reading Dion Fortune’s The Mystical Qabalah (among other theology and symbolism texts), which is all about the Tree of Life made up of the Holy Sephiroth, emanations (which is another meaning of his name) from the right hand of God, and the Unholy Sephiroth or Qliphoth from the left hand of God. It’s what Yeats is referring to (arcanically at least) in his poem “The Two Trees,” and his poem “The Second Coming” is about a dark advent which is my favorite piece of poetry. Yeats was a mystic, so him having an interest in Qabalism and esotericism isn’t farfetched, though I’m quite amused that his two arguably most famous poems are referred to by FFVII.
Going along with this motif, Tifa is almost more than likely a reference from that as one of the Holy Sephira, singular for Sephiroth, yep, Sephiroth is plural and there are 10 of them with an 11th holy station Da’at (or Da’ath) making up an unseen 11th of sorts that sits in sort of opposition to Kether, the Crown, or top one (I actually have a Tree of Life tattoo, because of course I do!). Uhhh, oh yes Tifa! So Tifa is probably from Tiphareth, one of the Holy Sephiroth, and it’s associated with beauty and redemption and is the sphere most associated with Christ who is of course the Redeemer. It’s also on the central pillar, which is the pillar of equilibrium, which fits very well with Tifa’s character, since she’s a balancing force in Cloud’s life, and indeed one of its associations is also balance (pulling from Wikipedia).
I prefer Aeris, too, and even though it’s a mistranslation, Aeris or rather Eris is the Goddess of Strife, so there’s that. Aeris means “air” in Latin, which beacons to the ephemeral, and indeed as a flower maid, he’s not long for this world. The blooms she cultivates in Midgar are lilies, which are associated with death and that the soul has returned to innocence after birth, which is pretty perfect. (They’re also poisonous to cats, which probably means nothing and I’m more than likely reaching, but Seph *does* have cat eyes, so who knows). Aeris as a character is heavily associated with a goddess figure, and I believe in Crisis Core, that’s what she’s considered, but even in the original game, She’s a Christ figure to Sephiroth’s antichrist. There’s much more to this than that, but suffice it to say that her sacrifice served to save the world.
Of course there’s the TONS of Norse Mythology references in Midgar, Nibelheim, and the Midgar Zolom (Midgard Serpent), and Sephiroth definitely has some dark phoenix (that fire rebirth though) and dark seraph stuff going on, Squeenix LOVES it’s fallen angel final bosses (re: Kefka). Nibelheim or Nifleheim is “the land of always winter,” and of course in the game you have the north/Northern Crater where Jenova first landed that is always cold due to the amount of spirit energy being pulled from the Planet in an attempt to heal that 2000 year old wound.
I always saw Sephiroth himself as more of a tragic figure who was first manipulated by his terrible d***khead father and then by his false mother. He never had access to the truth, and anyone who could tell him his true origins were either dead or had abandoned him. There’s obviously Oedipal connections with him, but much more than most people think, which I’m discovering since I’m summarizing the Greek Tragedy for my essay WIP. Oedipus’s lack of knowledge led to his downfall, because he didn’t know the person he thought was his mother (Merope) was not. This is why the Greek phrase “Nosce Te Ipsum” “Know Thyself.” is so important, that way you can avoide “fatum terrible” or terrible fate, which is why that’s one of the lines in the Advent version of Seph’s song. Also “Sors imanis et inanis” “Fate monstrous and empty” from the original (which is based on Carmina Burana!) I do find it amusing that he wasn’t *meant* to be a tragic/sympathetic figure, and this is why I break out my Death of the Author vs. Word of God spiel, because while they may *say* he’s not supposed to be, they certainly put things into the narrative that make him so at least to my viewpoint for…reasons, but I’m not the only one by a long shot. The funny thing is how this ties to Milton’s Paradise Lost, where Satan comes off as the protagonist, which Milton did NOT intend to do, and it’s mirrored centuries later with a narrative that directly refers to it.
Spot on with your assessment of the environmental message of FFVII. I’ve come to the conclusion that the story of the game is about the war between the earth gods and the sky gods and humanity’s hubris (represented by the Shinra) in thinking that we can control both. Recall at one point the corporation had both Aeris (earth…and I mean literally. Her “correct” name Aerith is an anagram of “I Earth”) and Jenova under their influence, and they lost control of both. Sephiroth was a Shinra creation, and there are volumes I could write about his comparison to Aeris. She’s a natural hybrid born out of love/mutual respect whereas he’s an artificial/alien hybrid created out of…well metaphorically at the very least assault per his real mother’s name Lucrecia and THAT origin
Okay…I’ll shut up now and crawl back to my blog to work on my essay…where I pretty much talk about this same stuff lol.
Oh! Just one more thing. I always pronounce Cait Sith as “kett-shee.” Apparently that’s how it would be said in Gaelic.
Final final thing (I mean…it’s appropriate that I don’t know the meaning of “final”), but the quote you used in the beginning about “the music makers and the dreamers of the dream” is the same one I use for my email signature. Soooo, you used the same quote for your FFVII review that I use and I’m arguably the mistress of FFVII 😉
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Haha we were expecting a marathon comment from the blogger most aligned with FFVII on WordPress! Thanks for dropping the references bomb. I thought you might. Some day I’d like to dive into all of that, and I appreciate you sharing extra tid bits. Clearly there’s no way to cram all of that into a review focused on all aspects of the game but one thing I always thought perplexing about Final Fantasy games’ typical use of myth, legend, folklore, religious references and what not is how much of it was momentarily deliberate (as in planned for this game), how much of it was based on previous uses (as in Cait Sith appearing in other games), how much of it was implemented by team members (as in some random dev naming a monster something in FF1 and it catching on), how much of it was actually random coincidence (as in the name just happens to fit or it doesn’t mean anything), and how much of it is too much (as in how much is eisegetical from the fans beyond the revealed insights of the devs).
The poisonous to cats lilies are *clearly* a reference to Cait Sith’s dooming fortune at the Gold Saucer… 😉 Haha I’m not going to pretend to follow every antiquity reference you’re mentioning.
When I was taking Hebrew in college, I also ran into Sephirot and got into studying that as a hobby with some of the pseudepigrapha (which was essentially fanfiction, I guess? ha!), and I started to wonder how much of that the creators of VII intended to put into the game and how much of it is slight reference, and at what point it becomes beyond what they knew about ancient Jewish non-canonical apocrypha? Like, I’ve thought that it’s interesting that there are the 10 Sephiroth and there are 9 playable characters in the game plus Sephy himself, but while it’s all fascinating, is it a fair assumption to wonder at what point how much Sakaguchi, Kitase, and Uematsu read up on theological mysticism?
I don’t think there’s any straightforward answer to that question, and there may never be, which is part of what makes the unraveling interesting. I think specifically (and uniquely) in the case of VII, the hodge-podge of references from around the world actually do serve the plot and characters, mostly. There are a lot of other stories where such things really do seem random and fan-extrapolation seems to verge on reading into it all, but in that case it’s the developers’ fault for sloppily throwing around Lilith and Yggdrasil and Susanoo.
Linguistics are the things that interest me most, seeing the similarities between Hebrew, Greek, Latin as the language evolved over time but I refuse to call my favorite character “kett-shee”! Just as I refuse “Aerith”! XD
But hey if we associate the same quote with the same game and you’re the mistress of FFVII… then I must be the mustard of FFVII!!! Some day I’d love to spend my retirement writing an encyclopedia of FF references and interpretations, but that’s all work for another day.
I’ve thought about that, too. Are they deliberately putting these references in or are they haphazard? I lean more towards the latter just because the majority of them just fit too well to be coincidence. Like the Greek tragedy/FFVII comparative essay I actually was able to post, well now, yesterday. The major point I made had to do with Oedipus, and while of course the obvious “mommy issues” is there (which is just common in public discourse, because it’s generally something people can relate to, and, well, Freud), in researching, I found much more similarities. I should also mention that Jungian psychology is one of my favorites alongside Gestalt (hilariously, Final Fantasy references both of them. Jungian is the collective unconscious which is pretty much the Lifestream, and I’m pretty sure I heard something about Gestalt in FFXIII), and I do prescribe to the idea of universal archetypes. Creators being part of public discourse can’t help but use motifs that exist in that discourse even if they don’t consciously know they’re using them or even what they are. This is how completely disparate narratives can have the same paradigms with neither creator knowing about it. It’s kind of how every culture has vampire and zombies myths and they’ve had them even before universal contact. So if there’s something like the triple goddess motif or Norse Mythology references, those are really common right now, especially Norse Mythology because of the MCU. Paradise Lost is a huge draw as is really anything religiously symbolic. Am I 100% right about my symbolism conclusions? Maybe or maybe not, but I see it as almost a court case (which would be a far better comparison if I knew ANYTHING about law) where I present my evidence and support, and if there are people who disagree, they present their evidence to the contrary and/or negate what I’ve said logically. I’ve gotten MUCH better at dealing with disagreement/dissension since I started blogging, and I’ve found that there are definitely people out there who are super analytical like me when it comes to the symbolic and others who aren’t so much. One of my latter blogger friends actually introduced me to one of my currently favorite ASOIAF blogs now even though he thought the blogger who ran it fell into the “over analytical” camp, but he wasn’t derisive about. It wasn’t his thing but he encouraged anyone whose thing it was to check it out. It’s my FPS philosophy!
I go with the idea that there really isn’t over analysis, there’s only *incorrect* analysis. Like if I flub the potential symbolism of something and I talk about it at length ad nauseaum, the issue is not how much I’ve discussed it, but rather that I missed the integral point. I’m also speaking from the experience of that term being used as a dismissal by people who just don’t want to admit that they either missed the point or (elitism alert!) weren’t smart enough to follow along. Of course it’s also possible that my explanation was faulty, BUT most of the time I’d have some people who understood what I was saying.
That’s fair enough! I think I was okay with “kett-shee” because I found that out pretty recently after playing FFVII for the first time, but the Aerith thing came muuuuuch later when I was already in love with the game and the characters. I’m a fan of languages myself, and I loved linguistics when I took it in college. The sentence structure trees! I also love the etymology of accents. Anything that has to do with words, let’s be honest.
If you ever need a contributor to that encyclopedia, hit me up! That sounds like an AMAZING idea actually o.O Uh oh…now you’ve done it…I’m thinking about the logistics of it.
It’s a fair question and I think you can definitely tell where the references are haphazard and where they’re placed more intelligently. When it’s obvious, it’s eye-rolling ( I always thought Darth Plagueis was a stupid name, like we get he’s bad ) but when it’s done subtly enough then it’s intriguing. We’ve already seen how intriguing FFVII, both of us, numerous times. There was an Emperor Gestahl in FFVI, which is where I start to wonder how much FF as a series is just cherry picking its favorite references. Archetypes are definitely a solid explanation, and probably the best for these kinds of games.
I’m also sold on your take on symbolism in these games, namely that you present your argumentation and evidence before making conclusions. What I can’t abide is laziness like (in my opinion) Game Theory. Things like “Chrono Trigger retells the Bible! Is Crono God?” simply because of a death of a character… There’s a lot of laziness in this arena in fandom. That’s a general complaint, mind you. I think the beautiful thing is when fans compare and contrast their arguments and see which ones add up, but when someone says “well, too ME this means…” then I check out of that conversation. In that case there’s no way to verify the analysis… and it could only be over analysis and not correct or incorrect, which I think you agree is pretty dumb.
The one risk with the “you’re just not smart enough to really get it” line of thinking is that everyone’s experiences are limited. Some have had the privilege to learn more or read more, while others have not. That’s not to say those who have experienced more by virtue of their life’s situations and choices are better or worse, but we’re allowed to be smart insofar as we’ve done our part to learn with the resources available to us. What it comes down to then is the time put in and the determination, but there’s probably something that other person is “smarter” at or better at than me. You and I have talked about elitism, so I’m glad we share the same denouncing view of it. It’s the same thing with games. A lot of people haven’t had the privilege of playing FFVII so they couldn’t get all the symbolism anyways, not to mention read Milton or Greco-Roman lit.
Well… if we’re going to talk logistics with a Final Fantasy encyclopedia… which I have absolutely zero time for… we need to figure out a way to make time for it! Wait what? Yeah! Anyhow, I always envisioned something like taking a character, weapon, name, monster, villain, etc. at a time and doing an encyclopedia style entry on it, built it up over time. It could be a regular post of sorts. The issues would be making it accessible, readable, and brief but informed within reason. Like I wouldn’t expect someone to have to be well-versed in the occult or Christian mysticism to appreciate it! At that point, I think it wouldn’t be worth doing since the goal would be informing, not confusing. It could contain reference links, though.
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Was there an issue with Emperor Gestahl? I didn’t know he was a direct reference to anything in his name. I know the FF series loves its Star War references just in general, so the “evil empire/corporation” is in every game. I have plans for an FF archetype essay post at some point, but it’s probably going to come AFTER my replay project. I will say I did wonder if Gestahl was supposed to sound like “gestapo,” but I don’t really have much solid evidence for that, and if any of them was going to be tied to that kind of thing, it would be FFVII with its lack of bioethics/human experimentation and Josef Mengele parallel in Hojo.
I have issues with Game Theory as well. It’s one of the reasons I stopped listening to them, even though they had the disclaimer at the end of how it was *just* a theory. That’s a big sign to me, because a theory is a system of ideas meant to explain something, and it’s a term that’s thrown around as a synonym for idea or at worst “opinion,” which people think they’re automatically entitled to. You’re entitled to your informed opinion. In order to have a biblical retelling, you have to hit on integral points, and I’m not seeing that in Chrono Trigger. That “to me this means,” phrase always bothered me, too, because there’s usually no explanation following it, so it really means nothing. FFVII means a great deal to me, and some of those reasons are highly personal, so that might be the REASON I study it so fervently, but I can’t say it means something to me as an examination point, because that’s not objective examination. There’s nothing wrong with a narrative hitting you personally, but it’s not a point you can present for an argument. A discussion about personal affect, but not a debate. That was definitely something I needed to learn.
Yep, that’s something else I needed to learn in my elitism, and I’m still a work in progress with it lol. I’ll find myself getting frustrated especially when I’m faced with others making logical fallacies (e.g. ad hominem attacks, appeal to authority etc.), and I want to lash out and declare that they’re doing this because they’re “too stupid” to do anything else, but people can’t help the education they receive. I used to be a prescriptive grammarian (which has another more, er, fascist based name) where I’d dismiss anyone who didn’t use “proper” grammar, which is wildly unfair. The part that annoys me most is when people who haven’t studied things are dismissive because I have. Like if you haven’t read Milton or Campbell and either are curious or even have no interest, but don’t ridicule or belittle me for doing so and applying it to a video game, then we have no problem. Unfortunately, I’ve run into people who are not only happily ignorant, but they deride the search for more knowledge and/or would see my need to write these types of essays as a waste of time. I can understand lack of education and even ignorance to a point, but I can’t understand ridiculing someone for wanting to learn. I suppose if they themselves have been ridiculed for their lack of knowledge, it might be a defensive mechanism, but they’re attacking the wrong person.
I was actually going to do some notes/organization on the encyclopedia tonight lol. I have an Angel Dictionary, which does something clever with referring to *other* texts for certain things, so like for the entry on Sephiroth (of course I’m picking that one lol) it mentions how he’s an angel of the 5th Seal and he’s in the 6th and 7th Books of Moses, which are totally volumes you can look up! So it would be like “here are the important points, and if you want more information, look here!” That’s actually what I thought about when it came up. A lot of the monsters can be found in other specialized dictionaries. I’ll see what ideas I can come up with this week before I go back to work next Monday!
So far I haven’t done any etymology research in FFVI, so I can’t tell you any more about Gestahl beyond the similarity in sound and spelling concerning his name. Interesting you brought up the bioethics in FFVII as there’s a lot of that in VI as well, as you know, with the creation of Kefka and Terra in labs. I mean, that empire pretty much created a world-destroying villainous clown through their experimentation.
You and I pretty much see eye to eye on Game Theory, and “reading into” things, it sounds like. I appreciate that about you, of course! Hey hey and the good news is we’re all learning and growing. Hopefully we’re not sliding backward but always moving forward. Heck, I’ve got a ton of character flaws to iron out and I think you and I have touched on elitism and confronting it numerous times, including willful and self-inflicted ignorance. That I have no sympathy for. Human society, right?
Sounds good on the encyclopedia, yeah and maybe in Discord PM we can throw together something brief every week and duo-publish it… like just an entry on a name, references, how it’s used, indicators of its meaning in the game, and so on. That’d be fascinating and prod people to do research. We could alphabetize eventually! I am curious about the reference of Sephiroth as being the angel of the 5th seal. Is that from apocryphal, non-canonical type writings like the 6th and 7th books of Moses?
it’s funny. Once I played FFVII and went back to FFVI, I saw more of the science fantasy aspect of VI! To be honest, I think Final Fantasy is more science fantasy than 100% fantasy, but Final Science Fantasy sounds ridiculous 😀
I think Terra was more like the Aeris archetype in VI, being the magic girl/hybrid the evil empire/corporation experimented on/tried to control. Heck, she even has a name that refers to the “earth,” too. Celes and Kefka were the genetic experiments with Kefka going wrong. I never liked the comparisons of him to Sephiroth even though they’re both considered the primary antagonists of their games, because I always saw Seph as more of pawn who used other pawns like Golbez from IV or Kuja of IX. We never see Kefka any other way but how he is whereas even before Crisis Core, there are glimpses of Sephiroth as not insane or in an alien’s thrall. To be honest, I think him and Celes have a similar archetype, but because Celes had friends and something to cling to, she had the ability to make the right decision whereas Sephiroth had only a foundation of falsehood. But I will admit that Kefka IS the better villain if only for the fact he succeeded in his goals. Granted he didn’t succeed FOREVER, and once he’s defeated he’s gone for good whereas Sephiroth constantly comes back like the devil you know, but Kefka set out to destroy the world, and by God he did it :p You could possibly argue that Sin did so as well, and Kuja did manage to destroy Terra (ha), but unequivocally, Kefka had this. As for the bioethics, I think they hit me harder in FFVII because VII is the closest of the Final Fantasies to our world/era even taking place in what’s supposed to be New York (the city Midgar is based on), and of course the gigantic eco message. FFVI definitely has it, too, but because the world is more fantasy-esque at least in setting, it didn’t hit me as hard as VII. Granted, once you get out of Midgar, it’s as expansive as any Final Fantasy world, but within the city, it’s very much like your desolate city slum at the bottom, elite on the top.
There’s another gaming channel that irks me. They’re snarky just for the sake of being snarky, which is something I cannot stand. I LOVE well done parody and satire, but I can’t stand stand people who make fun of something just for the sake of making fun of it. It might be Zero Punctuation or Angry Video Game Nerd…I think it’s the latter. I stopped listening to a lot of gaming channels so I don’t even know anymore. As for self-inflicted ignorance, two words: cognitive dissonance. We all have, but too many aren’t even aware they do. Frustrating.
I actually started jotting stuff done about the FFE (encyclopedia is WAY too long of a word to keep writing down hehe) tonight! I remembered there used to be a site called the FF Compendium, but it hasn’t been updated since 2009. That’s the closest thing to an encyclopedia about it that I know of.
If I weren’t so lazy, I’d get up and look it up in my angel dictionary haha. I thought it was interesting because the 5th Seal has to do with the martyrs, which made me think of Aeris, but I highly, highly doubt (or can’t prove) that they were thinking of that. I’m never sure though, because VII’s Sephiroth does touch on quite a lot of the Qabalistic symbols.
Yes I think the medieval “high fantasy” stuff was more constrained to the early FF’s and IX (but even those have more mechanical things in them like magical machines and airships). It’s definitely got that D&D influence but thankfully FF has more diversity to its content than that. I always thought the bulk of FF is sci-fantasy too! Look at FFX for example, or VI through VIII. XII even. Oh and XIII. Hahaha!
The big difference is as you pointed out that VII seems more real-world (with its industrialization) than VI which still feels set in the realm of fantasy, and its bioethical scenes are still confined to magical technology, rather than talk of genetics and such. And also, spot on with the Kefka assessment. Kefka is unique as a FF villain in that he’s not sympathetic, ever. He was always insane and we never saw him otherwise. Sort of like if Sephiroth grew up mad, and if he wanted to annihilate existence itself.
But do we know Kefka is gone for good… it’s another GAAAAAAAAAAAYUUUUUM THEEEEEEEEREEEEEE!!!! Yeah I hardly ever watch YouTube videos on gaming or reviews, mostly because the cadence and content appealing to cheap laughs and such falls flat for me. If a video opens with “HEY GUYZ!” then I stop listening to it. I much prefer to read in comparison. That aspect of YT that just tries to be angry to be shocking (like some reviewers I’ve seen where they start off with “WTF”)… not my cuppa.
I saw your note on FFE, and I can’t wait to read it! I’d like to keep this well-defined and manageable, as you know, but it’s something that could potentially bloom! …like flowers in a church.
I really never thought of how sci fantasy it was until years later. They totally tricked me with the title lol. I’d say IX was probably the most fantasy of them all. Even the airships ran on the Mist, so there was a magical element to that, too. I remember watching a Let’s Play of the original FF and there was some group of people who were technologically advanced, so it was even in the “original” fantasy.
The industrialized Midgar was a huge factor in setting VII more closely to our world, plus it took place in our time, too! The year of the original game is 2007, ten years in the future of when it came out. There’s a timeline on line somewhere, but I just calculated it based on Aeris’s birthday which is February 7, 1985 (yes, I’m this much of a dork). Since we know she dies at the age of 22, that puts the year at 2007. There’s a trope called something like 20 Minutes Into the Future, and it’s about stories like this that have technology that’s very close to what we have, but slightly more advanced, so VII had genetically engineered soldiers…though tbh I believe we may have the technology to do that or are very close to it, but it’s not publicly disclosed. Not that I’m a conspiracy theorist or anything like that, but it’s not that farfetched. This is opposed to FFVIII which has much more advanced technology with its paramagic riding that line between sci-fi and fantasy. Plus the lunar shenanigans and how quickly they were able to send them into space.
It seems like you found the worst of the worst with game reviewers lol. Though, I, too, find it difficult to locate game reviewers I like. I’ve had to stop following pages dedicated to Final Fantasy VII, because of the vitriol. This is another reason I want to do video reviews. I’m looking into methods that are more akin to how people talk about books and films, since my focus would be the narrative, I have found some that are like that, but they’re sparse. YT is filled with edge lords, and I just have no patience for that.
Gah, see now I actually want to almost create a new bog page just to play around with formatting and whatnot, but I need to jot down some more ideas/plans. I did see your reply on Discord! I’ll need to copy/paste that into OneNote.
I love this comment! Thanks for that fascinating read!
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I knew someone once who played this once and decided it was the worst thing he’d ever played. I ended up with his copy and a guidebook. While not my first RPG, this WAS my first Final Fantasy and it was a truly enthralling experience. Excellent, excellent stuff.
Sounds like one of those people who always find a new “worst thing ever”. There are people on the other side too constantly finding new “best things ever”, but it’s usually just exaggeration. Do you recall their reasons? Did they play it contemporaneously or later down the road? What did you find enthralling about it? Why did this game pop out to you compared to other RPGs you played before it?
I think he got it about six months after release. It was a very well regarded game by then, and he expected it to live up to the hype. I think it came down to him generally only playing soccer management games, making it a far cry from his normal games. I’m sure he said it was too slow too.
Hmm…the sci-fi feel to the setting really stood out for me. I also found that, after about two hours of play, I really loved Cloud, Barret and Tifa as characters, and was thoroughly invested in seeing how the story would play out. Throw in that my main go to have on the PlayStation at the time were Resident Evil and Crash Bandicoot, and FFVII was a marvelous change of pace.
I didn’t play this until I few years ago when I was 18, but it still changed the way I look at stories in video games
Thank you for sharing! How so? I mean, how did FFVII change the way you looked at stories in video games?
I just never paid that much attention to them before. The way FFVII did it made me want to know what happens next and really opened my eyes to how a story can be. It made me see it more in other games as well,
This is definitely one of my top 5 stories in video games, and I felt the same way
I really wanted to like this game. I like the concept of it, I love the plot, the characters are great, the visuals were ahead of their time, the audio is amazing…but there is one thing that just really crushes the game for me. The map is of no help when trying to figure out what to do. I wasted over 15 hours just wandering the globe because I didn’t know that the airship was in the water. I got lost many times and just wandered around til I found the answer. If not for getting lost I’d easily give the game an 8 or a 9, but those moments really grated on me. I’m really looking forward to the remake because it shouldn’t have that problem. I admire what the game did for the video game industry, but the actual game just fell short for me.
When literally millions and millions of people had no problem with that, is that still the game’s fault or is that you?
Others may have shared the same issue without vocalizing it but regardless, this is a hub for civil discussion so please be constructive, understanding, and friendly towards other commenters and respect their experiences. Thank you.
Definitely the game’s fault tbh
Dude, I feel your pain! I never actually finished because I messed up during the submarine part where you had to locate the Key of and Ancients. I never retrieved it and had no idea what to do. I’ve seen the ending many, many times, and read (and written) more pieces on the game than probably words in all the books on my shelves, but I’ve never finished it myself due to that. Hopefully, the Remake will make it more accessible to not only the younger generation, but prior ones who ran into these issues.
Mistress of FFVII?! Rescind your diadem! Jk 😉 I’m no elitist. I am however very curious. Do you ever plan to revisit the game and finish it through on your own? Was this experience formative in your taking to Lets Plays? I had the same issue with FFVI… forget where I parked! I don’t recall if it happened to me in this one, though. I thought the world map showed the location of the Highwind.
Definitely! It’s part of the years long great FF play/replay project! I’m on V right now; when I finish that it’ll be VI then VII. I can’t NOT finish Final Fantasy VII before I die. That would be absolutely obscene and unheard of. Shame on you sir for even suggesting it! *hmph*
Oh no, me messing up on VII was most assuredly not discouraging at all!. I just never got back to it, which is one of the reasons I wanted to do this project. I started watching LPs actually with the game Faxanadu. I saw something that reminded me of it one day, and I figured I’d see if I could find a playthrough of it on YouTube. I’d watched gameplay before, but I didn’t like when people talked through it. I just wanted the action of the game. Now that I think about it Kid Icarus was the first game I watched a Let’s Play of, and it had no commentary. I didn’t like hearing anyone speak at first, but then I realized it was because I Just didn’t like those LPer. As of now there’s been only one LPer I stopped following because I got sick of how he did things. He was super derisive of some of the games he played, and since this was back when I was started my FF project and I wound up having to watch Final Fantasies I-III, I was super annoyed about that. Also, he would just scroll through dialogue without giving enough time to read it. Um, what are you doing? I like the people who read it tbh, especially if they do different voices. The good LPers have helped inspire and inform me on how I want to do them (once I have the equipment).
Lol, I know it’s ironic right? I’ve never finished the game I’d sell my soul and first born for myself (maybe I have *spooky laughter*), but I’ve of course seen the ending loads of time. One of the times I was still in college, walking back to my room, and someone had their door opening and they were playing FFVII, and I kind of just wandered in :p I’ve won many rounds of that game where you tell two truths and one lie and people have to figure it out which one is the falsehood. It’s a definite ace in the hole if the person has talked to me long enough to know about my FFVII obsession…which isn’t long. Like there are people who know about it who I don’t think I’ve told. I’m pretty sure they learned it by osmosis…or the Lifestream. Definitely the Lifestream.
So until then, you’re demoted to sistress of FVII and I’m the mustard of FFVII (since it’s been years since I’ve played it) hahaha! Ah where was I… oh yeah I was going to comment on delicious, delicious FFVI. Psh I could stand to play that right now. As for FF1… that game’s still kicking my butt. I just don’t want to set a personal precedent and go the LP route just yet. I don’t know, it’s just so grindy. If I’d played it back in the hey day, I think it would’ve been much easier. As it is, it’s super easy to get lost, especially without a walkthrough.
Nooooooooo, I still know more about FFVII than anyone on this seven cursed planet :p
This must be “TSN’s embarrassing Final Fantasy story” hour. So when I played FFI I didn’t realize you had to make sure there was an “E” next to your equipment to make sure it was equipped, so I spent over a month grinding wondering why the hell my fighter wasn’t taking off that much even when I had him “equipped” with a sword. When I finally figured it out, it had been over a month, and I just wanted to finish the game so I could write my review and move on. With FFII I didn’t have a translated version, and with III I didn’t have a version at all. I have DS versions of all three now, and I attempted to play I on that, but I got tired of grinding once I got outside of the elf village and I need thousands of GP to purchase upgrades, and the enemies were dropping maybe 300 per if I was lucky. I really wanted to get to FFIV anyway, because I love that game. I go back and forth between whether that’s my third favorite or VI is. I think I’ll be better able to decide once I replay VI. I picked up VI-VIII and War of the Lions on the PSN for $5 a pop last week.
I’d also recommend NOT eating your games. I’m sure you just want to absorb there powers, but there are better ways WRM!!!
Ehhhh you picked up the VI version for PlayStation? Those loading times, tho… I mean, you got it cheap at least. So that’s good. I haven’t played any of the newer versions but I think there’s a smooth mobile and 3DS version.
Did you know… *struggles to think of something obscure* that Chrono Trigger itself was originally going to be FFVII in the very early stages?
Really??? Is that the digital version or the disk version that came with Chrono Trigger (speaking of lol). Well, we’ll see. You’re right; at least it was cheap, and if I have any major problems with it, I can use the disk. I had the DS version, but I lent it and never got it back.
I did know that! I loved the fact that the Masamune was an integral weapon in CT, too. Doreen’s existential quote is probably one of the best in that game ;p
So with what research I’ve done, since I’ve wanted to pick these up digitally on PSN too, I’ve read in multiple places that these digital versions are the exact same as the physical versions released for PS1. That includes the ridiculous loading times. They apparently didn’t fix that for the digital release. DS seems to be everyone’s best bet for re-releases, but I don’t own any of those. I’m sticking to the SNES carts and the Wii Virtual Console for these. I mean I honestly hope that they don’t have those PS1 stains on them! I’d be really interested to hear from you if they do have those savage loading times.
Also…. please don’t think I’m a massive jerk, because I am a massive jerk! If it helps, think of me as a prankster archetype… so I made up that Chrono Trigger was intended to be FFVII tidbit to see what you’d do… Sure there are a lot of similarities, but what I’ve actually read is CT was intended to be free from franchise constraints from the get go when it was just Sakaguchi, Horii, and Toriyama. Aaahhhhhhh I hope you can find it in your heart of hearts to forgive me of such a dastardly trick! You are correct with those other references, though 😀 Don’t hate me!
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I must be too tired to realize I’ve been tricked LOL. What?? Am I suppose to be angry about something? I’m going to make like a Snorlax and just fall asleep to block your progress :p
I am a scoundrel, though I prefer trickster archetype. Mea culpa! Mea maxima culpa!
Would you say that the map issue was your singular and most significant complaint against FFVII? Was that the only reason you’d mark it down? It’s archaic by modern standards but it’s the same thing that happened in RPGs around that time. I actually did forget where I parked in FFVI but I had multiple saves to fall back on. Learned that lesson after some nameless game locked me in a boss fight I couldn’t escape from. Can’t remember what game.
Yeah that was my only real complaint with the game. Beyond that I definitely thought it was a really fun game and it helped get the context around Advent Children more. Having backup saves is definitely a good idea, I should probably do that more often.
Whew without context Advent Children is a beautiful mess! Heck, even with FFVII, Advent Kids can be hard to follow. At least for me.
When did you try playing this game? There’s walkthroughs on the internet if you’re lost and strategy guides as well
I started playing the game about 2 years ago. I got stuck for about 5 months the first time, progressed a bit more, and then got stuck for quite a while until I finally beat the game in February. I ultimately did have to use an online walkthrough to find it, but I was trying to beat the game without any outside help like that. I’ve had to concede defeat a few other times though like with Metroid, but it’s a last resort. It’s definitely true that you won’t be stuck forever though as those guides are always an option